SHIP: Re: Harry, Hermione & Ron

[l3al3y_Doll_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 74969

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "l3al3y_Doll_3" 
<Kiss2Kiss1 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greatelderone" 
> <greatelderone at y...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "C M" <cmurph18 at y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > >Of course I've thought that. But, as I think my post indicated, 
> > >*I* don't see the waters as being muddied. Fleur thanks and 
> kisses 
> > >Harry, then turns and does the same to Ron. THEN we hear that 
> > >Hermione looks furious. 
> > 
> > GEO: Probably because Harry's attention was still on the kiss 
and 
> the 
> > story is told from his limited pov so he wouldn't have noticed 
> > Hermione being furious when Fleur was kissing him since he would 
> be 
> > distracted. It was only after the kiss that he noticed that 
> Hermione 
> > was furious while at the same time Fleur was kissing Ron. 
> 
 Maritza:
 I hate to repeat what CM wrote, but-
 
'Fleur swooped down, kissed Harry twice on each cheek (he felt his 
face burn and wouldn't have been surprised if steam was coming out 
of his ears again), then said to Ron, "And you to- you 'elped"
 
Yeah," said Ron, looking extremely hopeful, "yeah a bit-"
Fleur swooped down on him too and kissed him. Hermione looked simply 
furious...'
 
I'm sorry but no one is going to convince me Hermione's anger is 
directed at Harry's kisses from Fleur, and NOT Ron's. If it were the 
former, it would have been written directly following it. I know JKR 
likes to play games with us readers, but if she wanted to hint at a 
H/H SHIP in that scene, she would have written it the way I 
mentioned. And apparently Harry wasn't distracted too much to notice 
the detailed look on Ron's face. 
 
And here's another example including Fleur that doesn't even include 
Harry-
 
' "We will see each uzzer again, I 'ope," said Fleur as she reached 
him, holding out her hand. "I am 'oping to get a job 'ere, to 
improve my Eenglish."
 
"It's very good already," said Ron in a strangled sort of voice.
Fleur smiled at him; Hermione scowled.'
 

I'm sure your reasoning for this scene will be another put-down at 
Ron's sake, because that's the basic technique you often use to 
*try* proving your ship points. I'm sorry I don't have examples to 
back this statement up, I don't feel like searching for them at the 
moment. But I assure you I'm not pulling this out of my arse.
 
GEO said- 
>In regards to Ron and Hermione, their friendship is nothing 
>compared 
>to the one shared by Harry and Hermione. Those two finish each 
>others 
>sentences, know what the other is thinking and when they argue 
>they 
>actually argue at relevant and valid issues and are quick to 
>reconcile in contrast to the Ron and Hermione friendship which is 
>marked by petty bickering and a lack of communication and 
>knowledge 
>of the other.  
 
 
Now that's a stretch. Ron and Hermione may have their moments, but I 
believe they have a profound understanding of each other, and their 
relationship lacks anything but communication of any sort. Side note-
two of my friends have been dating for the last two years, and their 
relationship is full of "petty bickering"; does that make them any 
less destined to be together? 
 
You seem to be placing Harry and Hermione together up on this marble 
pedastool, while proving your obvious dislike for Ron. I mean, if I 
remember correctly, Ron was the one chosen as the thing/person Harry 
would miss most during the second task, not Hermione. And no, it 
wasn't because Hermione was unavailable being Krum's damsel in 
distress. If we're just talking friendship, the way I see it is, 
IMHO there are two kinds of bonds in this trio- the Harry/Ron bond, 
and the Harry/Hermione/Ron bond. But neither is more important than 
the other, and I doubt even JKR herself would disagree. 
 
It's one thing to desperately want a ship, it's quite another to be 
constantly ramming it down other people's throats and not willing to 
listen to the other side. If Harry *ever* had any romantic interest 
in Hermione, we would have known already, because it would have been 
*written in the books* since we do share his thoughts and POVs. 
That's not to say it may not happen in the future (and God I hope 
not!), but as of OotP, it's just hopeful thinking for some readers. 
Since we don't know for a fact whom Ron, Hermione or anyone else 
(besides Harry) for that matter hold dear to their hearts, all we 
can do is make assumptions by reading into things. And sometimes, 
some of us read into those lines too much.

Maritza- who apologises if she came off a bit strong and/or offended 
anyone, but felt it's time she speaks her oppinions on these 
matters :)