SHIP: Re: Harry, Hermione & Ron

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No: HPFGUIDX 74973

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "l3al3y_Doll_3" 
<Kiss2Kiss1 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "l3al3y_Doll_3" 
> <Kiss2Kiss1 at a...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greatelderone" 
> > <greatelderone at y...> wrote:
> > > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "C M" <cmurph18 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Of course I've thought that. But, as I think my post 
indicated, 
> > > >*I* don't see the waters as being muddied. Fleur thanks and 
> > kisses 
> > > >Harry, then turns and does the same to Ron. THEN we hear that 
> > > >Hermione looks furious. 
> > > 
> > > GEO: Probably because Harry's attention was still on the kiss 
> and 
> > the 
> > > story is told from his limited pov so he wouldn't have noticed 
> > > Hermione being furious when Fleur was kissing him since he 
would 
> > be 
> > > distracted. It was only after the kiss that he noticed that 
> > Hermione 
> > > was furious while at the same time Fleur was kissing Ron. 
> > 
>  Maritza:
>  I hate to repeat what CM wrote, but-
>  
> 'Fleur swooped down, kissed Harry twice on each cheek (he felt his 
> face burn and wouldn't have been surprised if steam was coming out 
> of his ears again), then said to Ron, "And you to- you 'elped"
>  
> Yeah," said Ron, looking extremely hopeful, "yeah a bit-"
> Fleur swooped down on him too and kissed him. Hermione looked 
simply 
> furious...'
>  
> I'm sorry but no one is going to convince me Hermione's anger is 
> directed at Harry's kisses from Fleur, and NOT Ron's. If it were 
the 
> former, it would have been written directly following it. I know 
JKR 
> likes to play games with us readers, but if she wanted to hint at 
a 
> H/H SHIP in that scene, she would have written it the way I 
> mentioned. And apparently Harry wasn't distracted too much to 
notice 
> the detailed look on Ron's face. 
>  
> And here's another example including Fleur that doesn't even 
include 
> Harry-
>  
> ' "We will see each uzzer again, I 'ope," said Fleur as she 
reached 
> him, holding out her hand. "I am 'oping to get a job 'ere, to 
> improve my Eenglish."
>  
> "It's very good already," said Ron in a strangled sort of voice.
> Fleur smiled at him; Hermione scowled.'
>  
> 
> I'm sure your reasoning for this scene will be another put-down at 
> Ron's sake, because that's the basic technique you often use to 
> *try* proving your ship points. I'm sorry I don't have examples to 
> back this statement up, I don't feel like searching for them at 
the 
> moment. But I assure you I'm not pulling this out of my arse.
>  
> GEO said- 
> >In regards to Ron and Hermione, their friendship is nothing 
> >compared 
> >to the one shared by Harry and Hermione. Those two finish each 
> >others 
> >sentences, know what the other is thinking and when they argue 
> >they 
> >actually argue at relevant and valid issues and are quick to 
> >reconcile in contrast to the Ron and Hermione friendship which is 
> >marked by petty bickering and a lack of communication and 
> >knowledge 
> >of the other.  
>  
>  
> Now that's a stretch. Ron and Hermione may have their moments, but 
I 
> believe they have a profound understanding of each other, and 
their 
> relationship lacks anything but communication of any sort. Side 
note-
> two of my friends have been dating for the last two years, and 
their 
> relationship is full of "petty bickering"; does that make them any 
> less destined to be together? 
>  
> You seem to be placing Harry and Hermione together up on this 
marble 
> pedastool, while proving your obvious dislike for Ron. I mean, if 
I 
> remember correctly, Ron was the one chosen as the thing/person 
Harry 
> would miss most during the second task, not Hermione. And no, it 
> wasn't because Hermione was unavailable being Krum's damsel in 
> distress. If we're just talking friendship, the way I see it is, 
> IMHO there are two kinds of bonds in this trio- the Harry/Ron 
bond, 
> and the Harry/Hermione/Ron bond. But neither is more important 
than 
> the other, and I doubt even JKR herself would disagree. 
>  
> It's one thing to desperately want a ship, it's quite another to 
be 
> constantly ramming it down other people's throats and not willing 
to 
> listen to the other side. If Harry *ever* had any romantic 
interest 
> in Hermione, we would have known already, because it would have 
been 
> *written in the books* since we do share his thoughts and POVs. 
> That's not to say it may not happen in the future (and God I hope 
> not!), but as of OotP, it's just hopeful thinking for some 
readers. 
> Since we don't know for a fact whom Ron, Hermione or anyone else 
> (besides Harry) for that matter hold dear to their hearts, all we 
> can do is make assumptions by reading into things. And sometimes, 
> some of us read into those lines too much.
> 
> Maritza- who apologises if she came off a bit strong and/or 
offended 
> anyone, but felt it's time she speaks her oppinions on these 
> matters :)

My reply: I am not taking sides here, but, Hermoine seemed upset 
throughout GoF everytime Ron was near a "Vella" (not that I think at 
this moment thats spelled right). But from Harry's POV, Hermoine was 
upset every time ROn was around Fleur, and not to add more to this 
post already, but she didn't seem quite as upset about it after 
Viktor and She started talking. So there you have it. Lori