SHIP: Ron/Hermione - What's the attraction?
queenofeverythang
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Sun Aug 3 03:52:20 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 74987
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Charlie Moody
<shaman at m...> wrote:
> JKR has put nothing of the sort on paper as between Ron &
Hermione.
> Their verbal exchanges, their opinions regarding each other,
their
> attitudes about life & themselves, & their general
dissimilarities, as
> presented on the page by JKR, are entirely inconsistent with
the
> fundamental premise of Ron and Hermione as a likely match.
Since when are relationships based on finding the person who
is most like you. I think no one can argue that Harry, Ron, and
Hermione are great friends with very different and distinct
personalities - however they still manage to quite enjoy each
others company. Yes, Ron thinks Hermione is a 'know it all' and
Hermione thinks Ron should take things more seriously, but
more than that they see each other as trustworthy, loyal, and
supportive.
> I didn't come into this with the notion that Harry & Hermione
ought to
> end up together; I just read the books; and when I first
encountered
> the R/H hypothesis, I was puzzled, because I could recall
nothing in
> the books to support it. The more I've looked looked into it, and
the
> more I've read the arguments for and against R/H, the more
convinced
> I've become that it simply has no basis in the canon.
The interactions between Ron and Hermione in books 4 and 5
are quite different from their early bickering in the first 3 books -
Hormones have now come into play. I am not suggesting that
either Ron or Hermione have been harboring a secret crush for
the other (though i won't overrule that either) - I just believe that
the change in the tone of Ron and Hermione's arguments go
beyond their normal criticism of each other and do suggest a
loaded interest in who they think the other is interested in. Why
else would JkR bother writing so many of these interactions
between R&Hrm?
> In the interests of fairness, here's the firmest argument I've
heard,
> pro
> R/H: Ron makes Hermione laugh, and Harry doesn't. I haven't
> checked this out for myself, so I can't vouch for it, but I
acknowledge
> that a shared sense of humour is an important thing in a
relationship.
> Even so, this point (if true) would be more an obstacle to H/H,
not a
> boost to R/H, given their near-total incompatibility.
If Ron and Herm were so incompatible why would they spend so
much time together (with and without Harry). They are together
for almost the entire school year, and even correspond and often
times meet up during vacation. These two obviously enjoy each
others company (bickering and all), and support and i would
hardly define that as near-total incompatibility. Maybe the
attraction is as simple as Hermione thinks that Ron is cute and
vice versa - there are loads of reasons why one person finds
another person attractive and it's not always logical. I don't think
'why' is so important when you're 15.
> The R/H SHIP, in SHIPping terms, is little more than a
walnut-shell
> half, holding a toothpick, anchored in wax, to which has been
taped
> a tiny, tiny flag - adrift on the wide, wide sea. Only its lack of
> substance
> allows it to remain afloat.
as... uh... um... lovely as that last statement was isn't that the
whole basis of a hypothesis. Untill JkR writes the words - "...and
Ron and Hermione lock in a passion filled embrace", or "I
wouldn't date Ron if he were the last man alive", Hermione
replied in a huff - we are left with only our speculations.
> I stand, as always, ready to listen to any argument that derives
from
> JKR's text and does not fly in the face of observable human
behaviour.
> --
> Charlie
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I think all of the arguments presented (generally speaking) can
be seen as valid but not law. Some are content taking what was
written and coming up with various theories and others want JkR
to slam the gavel down. the later will probably become very
frustrated with this board (from what Ive see in my short time as
a member). I, being the former, just see it as fun.
Also - I want to add that Harry's POV has a lot to do with our view
of R&Hrm's relationship. Not only because we only see what he
sees, but more specifically we only pick up on what he picks up
on. We see Ron and Hermione as he sees them, and maybe his
cluelessness in the relationship department has to do with why
not many budding relationships are spelled out for us. Perhaps
we fill in the blanks with our own biases, but I didn't read the
book thinking the three would be anything but platonic - the book
seemed to lead me in the R&Hrm direction. I think Harry sees
how R&Hrm react toward each other (the blushing, the jealous
remarks, the criticism on who the other may be interested in), but
his lack of interest or concern keeps him from dwelling on it. I
think nothing short of a kiss/love letter will peak his interest and
give us the definitive answer were looking for. Or maybe he
need Ginny to spill the beans. Whoever Hermione might like,
Ginny would probably be the 1st to know.
Just another theory.
Or rather, the same ole theory restated.
-QoE
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