More Points to Ponder: The Prophecies

[sleepingblyx]

No: HPFGUIDX 74998


> > We have had two major prophecies from Trelawney.
> > 
> > In Book 3, it was predicted that Wormtail would rejoin Voldemort 
> and
> > help him return to power. In Book 5, an earlier prediction was
> > revealed that implied Voldemort would be killed by Harry (real
> > unlikely that after 7 books Voldemort prevails).
> > 
> > Who are the predictions coming from? 

I just spent *way* too long looking at both of these prophecies in 
the books, and I notice, with all of the attention Rowling gives to 
the emphasis in which things are said, it would seem that when the 
prophecies are uttered, there is little word play as to the way in 
which the words are stated, beyond, "Harsh, horse tones"... 

Thus, when reading them, it would seem that the words are spokent in 
a monotone way.... and that if you were to type out the first 
prophecy adding emphasis, it might read a bit like this:

"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches." <--
This is just a basic statement of what will happen.

Born to those who have thrice defied _him_. <-- the obvious is 
that "him" in this statement is LV... but what if the him was the 
one who would kill LV? What if being "thrice defied" is what brings 
the "power" out of LV's persecutor?

"Born as the seventh month dies"... was the time of this possible 
transformation, or the actual birth month of said person.

"And the Dark Lord will mark _him_ as an equal" <--- what if "him" 
was stated as in a different guy... as in "not that guy, THAT guy"

"But _he_ will have power the Dark Lord Knows Not." <-- again, 
the "HIM" was mistaken as Voldemort's great equal this whole time, 
while guy #2 ("HE" in this statement) standing in the shadows really 
had the power that LV didn't even know existed.

If you wrote that out in plain english, it would be somethng to the 
effect of, "The person who will defeat the Dark Lord will be defied 
three times. The Dark Lord's will mistake another as his equal, but 
will be defeated by someone containing a power he does not know of."

"And either must die at the hand of the other" <-- This would allude 
to the possibility that when the mystery "him" comes into being, 
that Harry would not be able to survive, or vice versa. Which sets 
up a nice conflict... and possibly, is it that Harry has yet to 
become something else completely? 

"For niether can live while the other survives" <---Or has something 
yet take over Harry's body and mind in who can defeat LV... and 
would then have to "die" inside of Harry so that Harry can live? 

Or was that entire part of the prophecy simply alluding to the fact 
that Harry could not live if his mother survived? (And that instance 
may somehow occur again?)