More Points to Ponder: The Prophecies

[shaw_steven]

No: HPFGUIDX 75054

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sleepingblyx" 
<sleepingblyx at y...> wrote:
> 
> > > We have had two major prophecies from Trelawney.
> > > 
> > > In Book 3, it was predicted that Wormtail would rejoin Voldemort 
> > and
> > > help him return to power. In Book 5, an earlier prediction was
> > > revealed that implied Voldemort would be killed by Harry (real
> > > unlikely that after 7 books Voldemort prevails).
> > > 
> > > Who are the predictions coming from? 
> 
> I just spent *way* too long looking at both of these prophecies in 
> the books, and I notice, with all of the attention Rowling gives to 
> the emphasis in which things are said, it would seem that when the 
> prophecies are uttered, there is little word play as to the way in 
> which the words are stated, beyond, "Harsh, horse tones"... 
> 
> Thus, when reading them, it would seem that the words are spokent in 
> a monotone way.... and that if you were to type out the first 
> prophecy adding emphasis, it might read a bit like this:
> 
> "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches." <--
> This is just a basic statement of what will happen.
> 
> Born to those who have thrice defied _him_. <-- the obvious is 
> that "him" in this statement is LV... but what if the him was the 
> one who would kill LV? What if being "thrice defied" is what brings 
> the "power" out of LV's persecutor?
> 
> "Born as the seventh month dies"... was the time of this possible 
> transformation, or the actual birth month of said person.
> 
> "And the Dark Lord will mark _him_ as an equal" <--- what if "him" 
> was stated as in a different guy... as in "not that guy, THAT guy"
> 
> "But _he_ will have power the Dark Lord Knows Not." <-- again, 
> the "HIM" was mistaken as Voldemort's great equal this whole time, 
> while guy #2 ("HE" in this statement) standing in the shadows really 
> had the power that LV didn't even know existed.
> 
> If you wrote that out in plain english, it would be somethng to the 
> effect of, "The person who will defeat the Dark Lord will be defied 
> three times. The Dark Lord's will mistake another as his equal, but 
> will be defeated by someone containing a power he does not know of."
> 
> "And either must die at the hand of the other" <-- This would allude 
> to the possibility that when the mystery "him" comes into being, 
> that Harry would not be able to survive, or vice versa. Which sets 
> up a nice conflict... and possibly, is it that Harry has yet to 
> become something else completely? 
> 
> "For niether can live while the other survives" <---Or has something 
> yet take over Harry's body and mind in who can defeat LV... and 
> would then have to "die" inside of Harry so that Harry can live? 
> 
> Or was that entire part of the prophecy simply alluding to the fact 
> that Harry could not live if his mother survived? (And that instance 
> may somehow occur again?)
Steven:
Okay gang, I just had an evil thought while reading this post.  What 
if the seventh month referred to here is not the seventh month of the 
standard Gregorian Calendar, but another calendar?  If you remember 
your school lessons, September used to be the Seventh month before 
Julius named a month for himself (July) and Augustus copied him 
(August).  So many spells go back to the latin, why not the month 
names?  We all know precocious know-it-all Hermione was born in 
September.  What if she is the one spoken of in prophecy and both 
Neville and Harry are red herrings to protect her.

Steven
With tongue firmly in cheek