Lupin Loved Lily?

acoteucla acoteucla at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 5 01:17:40 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 75344

Sigh... you have zeroed in on the two biggest flaws of my theory.  I 
like to ignore those flaws, because everything else works out so 
nicely.  I'll answer your objections as best I can, but it'll be 
mostly speculation - no canon to back up my ideas.

> Wendy:
>
> "You sold Lily and James to Voldemort," said Black, who was shaking 
too.
> "Do you deny it?"
> 
> Pettigrew burst into tears. It was horrible to watch: he looked 
like an
> oversized, balding baby, cowering on the floor."
> 
> "Sirius, Sirius what could I have done? The Dark Lord . . . you 
have no
> idea . . . he has weapons you can't imagine . . . I was scared, 
Sirius, I
> was never brave ilke you and Remus and James. I never meant it to 
happen .
> . . He Who Must Not Be Named forced me - "
> 
> "DON'T LIE!" bellowed Black. "YOU'D BEEN PASSING INFORMATION TO HIM 
FOR A
> YEAR BEFORE LILY AND JAMES DIED! YOU WERE HIS SPY!"
> 
> "He - he was taking over everywhere!" gasped Pettigrew. "Wh-what 
was there
> to be gained by refusing him?"
> 
> 
> Peter does not deny that he betrayed James and Lily, nor does he 
deny that
> he was spying for a year beforehand, either. So I think he did both 
of
> those things. This doesn't mean that Lupin wasn't also doing these 
things.
> I am wondering how you reconcile your theory of Lupin's involvement 
here
> with the canon we already have pointing to Peter. 

Me, now:

Imagine the scenario that would have played out if Peter HAD denied 
that he had been passing LV information for a year.  Sirius would 
have snorted in disgust.  Ron would have rolled his eyes.  C'mon, 
would YOU have believed him?  Maybe Peter knew this, and didn't even 
bother to refute it.

Of course, I don't really believe that.  Peter would have jumped at 
any opportunity to refute what they were saying, even if he knew it 
was hopeless.  Another possibility is that he was so emotionally 
distraught at this point (he was crying and cowering like a baby), 
that he didn't fully register what Sirius had accused him of.  Or 
maybe he had done some small thing to be ashamed of (like talking to 
a death-eater, then getting cold feet), and he thought this was what 
Sirius was accusing him of.

However, my favored explanation is that Lupin performed a memory-
alteration spell on Peter, just like Shacklebolt did on Edgecomb.

> Wendy:
> 
> Here's the big question that your post raised for me: Where does 
this put
> Lupin now in terms of loyalty? Why would he continue to serve 
Voldemort
> after Voldie killed the woman he loved - the woman Voldemort had 
promised
> to spare at Lupin's request? It seems that this scenario might 
point to a
> Reformed-DeathEater!Lupin, more so than an activitely ESE!Lupin. 
And I
> don't see ReformedDeathEater!Lupin as being a very likely 
possiblity. So,
> why would Lupin be loyal to Voldemort now?

Me again:

Well, Lupin is Ever So Evil.  He's looking out for his own skin.  Now 
that he has joined up with Voldemort's gang, to then say "never mind" 
might be a fatal mistake.  Better to stick it out with Voldemort than 
to risk it.

Another possibility is that Lupin only asked Voldemort to TRY and 
save Lily's life.  Voldemort says "if she isn't smart enough to take 
my offer, there's not much I can do," and Lupin agrees to this.  
Lupin knows that Voldemort really did give Lily a chance (when Harry 
describes his Dementor-induced memories).  Maybe Lupin's sympathies 
always lay with Voldemort, and so even though he killed Lily, he 
decides to stick it out with him.





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