Why Couldn't LV get the prophesy for himself?

[greatelderone]

No: HPFGUIDX 75347

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Danger Mouse" 
<dangermousehq at h...> wrote:
> Regardless of if he's human, he can still do magic, and thus should 
be able to alter his appearance just as much as anyone else. Maybe 
there are limitations to his magical range, but I don't think 
whipping up a potion or charm to disguise himself would be one of 
them. Besides, even if it was, there's still muggle means (make up, 
and a wig.)

GEO: We don't know that. Voldemort isn't even human seeing how he was 
able to survive Avada Kedavra.


> True, but that was something was extremely noticible. God (Rowling) 
knows how they escaped. Did they blow a hole in the side of the 
prison, and swim? Or did they steal a boat? Or did they steal the 
wizard guards' wands and use those to apparate to land? An attack in 
the dead of night when there is no guard or security tripped, where 
one prophecy is stolen is probably much less noticible than 10 Death 
Eaters escaping out of Azkaban, and substantially easier to cover up.

Azkaban is isolated island off in the North Sea guarded by Dementors 
so there wouldn't be much of a wizard presence. I really don't think 
anyone would have noticed if the ten escaped unless the Ministry 
wished to reveal it.

> Dan:
> Um, to steal the prophecy. It would certainly be of interest, 
people would say, because it was about Potter and The Dark Lord. 
Naturally, Death Eaters would want to have it so they might figure 
out a way to bring him back. People knew the Death Eaters were 
around, and Voldemort was going to come out eventually; this was just 
a bit earlier than was planned. 

GEO:veryone else, but Dumbledore and his loyal order thought 
Voldemort was dead and wasn't about to come back. If anything the 
robbery of the prophecy room for whatever reasons would have 
attracted more supporters to Dumbledore and his ootp.

>  Dan:
> What about the stupefy charm--it's a thin ray that aurors and other 
law enforcers use on a regular basis to hit targets. 

GEO: Stupefy is a stunning charm used on people not objects.

>It would have made a lot of sense for Voldemort to possess someone, 
have him carefully curse/charm the prophecy and then listen in. What 
about levitation charms? If touching the prophecy is what causes 
madness, and can only be disarmed by the touch of the subject, it 
could possibly just be levitated into a sack, and then the henchman 
could skip off into the night back to Evil HQ. 

Maybe you haven't thought about this, but couldn't the prophecies be 
charmed so that only human hands not magic could remove them? If 
anything I think you are underestimating both the ministry in their 
security matters and Voldemort in his planning the theft of the 
prophecy especially with so many unknown variables.