[HPforGrownups] Re: Why Couldn't LV get the prophecy for himself?

[Danger Mouse]

No: HPFGUIDX 75412

> Regardless of if he's human, he can still do magic, and thus should 
be able to alter his appearance just as much as anyone else. Maybe 
there are limitations to his magical range, but I don't think 
whipping up a potion or charm to disguise himself would be one of 
them. Besides, even if it was, there's still muggle means (make up, 
and a wig.)

GEO: We don't know that. Voldemort isn't even human seeing how he was 
able to survive Avada Kedavra.

Dan:
But he might be--plus, I maintain that he could have worn an invisibility cloak, or a big sack over his head and sunglasses.

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>  Dan:
> What about the stupefy charm--it's a thin ray that aurors and other 
law enforcers use on a regular basis to hit targets. 

GEO: Stupefy is a stunning charm used on people not objects.

Dan:
Yes, it is. My point is that there were magical means of removing/breaking prophecies. The kids use the Reductor Curse to smash them. A charm that causes focused damage would be ideal. Voldemort could have easily possessed a DE or Nagini and watched when the prophecy was broken.

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Dan
>It would have made a lot of sense for Voldemort to possess someone, 
have him carefully curse/charm the prophecy and then listen in. What 
about levitation charms? If touching the prophecy is what causes 
madness, and can only be disarmed by the touch of the subject, it 
could possibly just be levitated into a sack, and then the henchman 
could skip off into the night back to Evil HQ. 

GEO
Maybe you haven't thought about this, but couldn't the prophecies be 
charmed so that only human hands not magic could remove them? If 
anything I think you are underestimating both the ministry in their 
security matters and Voldemort in his planning the theft of the 
prophecy especially with so many unknown variables.

Dan:
I have, and we've seen that they could be broken and seen fine without madness ensuing. A hammer would have done the trick. I think the Ministry had security, but it was broken by the Death Eaters/Voldemort (who's proven himself able to break through the most sophisticated security the Gringott's goblins could devise even while lodged in the back of Quirrel's skull). I also think Voldemort's planning... was not so good.

-Dan

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