SHIP: Harry and Cho
amanitamuscaria1
saraandra at whsmithnet.co.uk
Thu Aug 7 12:20:11 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 75833
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "feetmadeofclay"
<feetmadeofclay at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <penumbra10 at y...>
wrote:
>
> > Now, me,
> >
> > This criticism is a bit harsh, don't you think? Harry was
> sincerely
> > lost with a girl he fancied. He just wanted to be with her.
>
> He shows little internal interest in her which means he had little
to
> none. Instead he shows an interest in having her be interested in
> him. I am not saying it is not common or normal. I am only saying
> that it is also shallow and if Cho were real- cruel. I would not
want
> to be liked by Harry in such a way. Besides, no matter how many
boys
> are this shallow at 15, many are not.
>
> Normally when Rowling encounters this normal type of shallow or
mean
> behaviour she roundly criticizes it
*snip*
> Rowling simply doesn't do the same thing with Harry and Cho. And
> though boys may get tongue tied, most I think managed to at least
> have the interest.
>
> > Cho was the one who came at
> > Harry, kissed him and led him into that 'snog-shack' where she
and
> > Cediruc used to go. How insensitive can you get? She is a full
> year
> > older with dating experience.
>
> As I said before, I think Rowling fully makes this clear
*snip*
> Cho is put through quite a ringer both for imposing herself on
Harry,
> making him uncomfortable and being just generally shallow.
>
> The only person's bad behaviour I've seen JKR ignore so far is
> Hermione's and Harry's
*snip*
> Harry knows how to treat a girl - even one he likes. He knows
> how to treat people decently.
>
> The fault here is Rowling's IMHO not Harry's. I'm not sure I am
> meant to feel the way I do about his treatment of Cho. I think I
am
> meant to laugh at the whole thing and in the end learn that shallow
> traits are not good to go by. I am meant to indulge Harry and
excuse
> his behaviour as normal. I however cannot laugh at Cho. There is
> something so pitiful about her. Trapped in this illusion that men
> will be her rock and then she inexplicably lashes out when things
go
> badly. Contrasted with her previous depiction I cannot say I enjoy
> her downfall as I should. Perhaps I am just delusional. But still
> can't laugh at her. Even when all the jokes are there.
ME : WHERE is Harry supposed to have learnt all these things? I think
we have a plot point that will run for the next two books.
Harry hasn't had good examples of caring, loving, demonstrative
affection shown through his childhood. I don't think getting a hug
off Molly Weasley counts as an emotional schooling.
I believe this is Harry's task through the next two books - he has
the raw material, he has feelings for people, but he's not been given
any examples or instruction in showing the feelings.
He may have the 'weapon' love in vast quantities, but now he has to
learn how to 'use' it (I don't mean that to sound the way it does 8)).
As an 'action hero' as he's been for the first four books, he's not
considered anything much but the next adventure, task, battle. My
guess is, he's going to carry on growing up, and have to learn how to
deal with the big gaping hole in his development.
Cheers. AmanitaMuscaria
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