[HPforGrownups] Re: Who's going to betray the Order?

[Melanie Black]

No: HPFGUIDX 75872

Kneasy wrote:  
 

Snip:Percy too has committed a minor form of betrayal, but for him it was a 
matter of principle - the primacy of the Ministry. Yes, he may benefit, 
but remember he did not stay with his family and inform on them and 
their friends, which was probably what Fudge had hoped for. 


My reply:  Yes, but this is mainly because Percy was trying to be defiant.  He did not want to believe that what his father was saying about Fudge using him was true.  Thus, he had no problem leaving his parents.  Rebellion?  Maybe....But I think there is something more to Percy than that.  However, Percy would not be a betrayal on the Order...he isn't in it.  Nor do I see him really joining..he will stand along side Fudge.  I think he will be the next Barty Crouch.  His refusal to stand by Harry and Dumbledore is upsetting but it's not a betrayal.  

 

Snipet:  Hermione would be a sneaky possibility with another author. How do you 
imagine she would react if Voldy arranged to free all the House Elves 
if she helped him? Would the principle of universal freedom over-ride 
any consideration for individuals? She could console herself with the 
thought of the greatest good for the greatest number. BUT, with this 
author, forget it. JKR has admitted that Hermione is the 
personification of herself when younger. Would she depict herself as a 
traitor? No.

 

Now me:  Very true.  I can't see HErmione betraying the order.  For one thing I think she's too smart for that.  However, I do see her starting to be a hiderance to Harry in some ways.  In OOP she was very cautious...not that this is a bad thing...but I think it might annoy Harry.  Also, this might just be me...but does anyone else think Hermione is acting more and more like a snob?


Snipet: To my mind the character most likely to fall for manipulation by 
Voldemort is Harry. V has already got at him in a minor way, but have 
the protecting Occlumancy lessons continued? Apparently not.
He is mighty upset with DD, with the Order, with everybody. Nobody 
understands! I'm just a pawn! Nobody tells me anything! The Order 
itself means very little to him. Some of the people in it, yes, they 
matter. But the Order as an organisation - they let Sirius die! they 
employ Snape! they treat me as a child! they don't *do* anything! The 
fall-out from teenage angst and an 'I'll show 'em!' spasm would have 
horrible consequences, even if it was short lived. And think of the 
BANG from that plot!


My reply:  I saw this one coming from the beginning.  No Harry will not stay on the dark side but what would happen if did consider it for a little bit.  Let down his guard with the death eaters.  Grant you he has turned them down before...but at that time he felt like he had a lot to live for.  Now I'm not sure if he does.  Somebody on here said the scariest thing is that Harry will learn not to love people to guard himself.  I think this is true...we see him...we see him pulling away from his friends, from the order, from everyone at the end of the book.  That is very scary to me.  And what is more scary is that they aren't trying to help him.  Only hermione and Luna seemed willing to talk to Harry about what had happened (adn Dumbledore sorry)...but Ron...he wouldn't let the conversation take place.  The truth is maybe they don't realize it..but feelings as deep as Harry's they don't just dissappear.  He's a strong kid, but he's not that strong...he's a scared, lonely little boy
 and he has every right to be!  Unless he gets his frustrations out...I see the biggest threat to Harry..being quite simply himself.  

 

~Melanie




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