[HPforGrownups] Re: name of Salazar

[silmariel]

No: HPFGUIDX 76558


Catlady:

> I kept on looking and found some sources:

<< and http://www.buber.net/Basque/Surname/S/salazar.html says (among
 other things): "Well this is what Jaime Kerexeta says in his
 Diccionario Onomastico y heraldico Vasco.
 The meaning: is sure that is a basque name; ZAR means old, and SALA is
 Palace, so te meaning is "The old Palace".">>

I've read it and references 1300.

Random muslim words from XI-XIIth century, not only in the peninsula (just 
grab my History Enciclopaedia and copy as they appear):
 sejucida, almoravide, almohade, omaya, fatimi, abbasida, sunnita, Mu'tasim, 
samanida,sabuktagin,ghaznavidas, Mahmud, al-biruni, madrasas, ikta, Nizam 
al-Muk, Malik-Shah, Ayub, and Saladino, Sulaiman, Al-Azhar. Salazar is easily 
reached from this ones.

compare the sound with this:

Mutil gazte bat 26 atxilotu dute gaur goizaldean Bilbon, bere bikotekidea 
ustez erasotzeagatik. Emakumea osasun zentro batera eraman behar izan dute, 
Ertzaintzaren eta DYAren iturriek Europa Press-i jakinarazi diotenez. 
Gertakizunak Bilboko Benito Alberdi kalean izan ziren

sounds different

I'm not a linguistic, but I've looked up the wikipedia:

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language

By contact with neighbouring peoples, Basque has borrowed words from Latin, 
Spanish, French, Gascon etc. Some studies claim that half of its words come 
from Latin. Some other words are thought to go back to the Stone Age because 
they include the root haitz- (rock). For example, haiztoa (knife), haizkora 
(axe). 

>> SALAZAR
> Explicación de los componentes / Osagaien azalpena:
> SALA-=SALA
> -CASA, PALACIO, CORTIJO
> -ZAR=ZAHAR
> -VIEJO
> is what I got from:
> http://www.kaixo.com/euskaletxea/>>

Can be, why not, but add this to the picture:

>From the RAE www.rae.es (Royal Spanish Academy of Language), standard 
dictionary, 2001

[Salaz:  (Del lat. salax, -?cis). 1. adj. Muy inclinado a la lujuria.]

[ -ar (as a particle, not a word): (Del lat. -?ris).
1. suf. En los adjetivos significa condición o pertenencia. Espectacular, 
axilar.
2. suf. En los sustantivos indica el lugar en que abunda el primitivo. Pinar, 
palomar.]

'He who belongs to lust' or 'place of lust'

and [Sala: from germanic 'sal', yes a house, but not from basque.]

I don't think the meaning is so clear. That it is a basque surmane doesn't 
imply it does not come from arabian, latin or germanic.

silmariel