Lucius and Snape (was Secret Agent Snape in OotP)

[ariadnemajic]

No: HPFGUIDX 76581

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ariadnemajic" 
<stevejjen at e...> <snip>
> > But then there's the question of his (Snape's) relationship with 
Lucius. He could use his Legilimency/Occlumens skills to prevent 
Lucius from knowing his motives and to get info on the D.E's, but 
there'still the assumption (from the interactions with Quirrell) that 
Voldemort knows Snape's betrayal and would forbid D.E's from 
contacting Snape.  
> > Still, as recently as OOTP, Umbridge remarks on Lucius "speaking 
highly" of Snape. Is Lucius, *GASP* pretending to be a DE?  He did 
> > keep the other D.E.'s from harming Harry in the Dept. of 
Mysteries, and he didn't try to find Voldemort after his 
downfall...of course, there's the muggle-baiting incident at the 
World Cup, if Draco is to  be believed.The Lucius/Snape relationship 
just doesn't fit if Voldemort knows 
Snape's betrayal.  

>Mandy: The LV/Lucius/Snape relationship as described above makes 
perfect sense if LV knows Snape if spying and is choosing to use it 
to his advantage. It is not necessary for LV to let Lucius know this 
> especially if LV mistrusts Lucius, which I believe he does. (GoF LV 
> calls Lucius "My slippery friend.")   Lucius isn't stupid but he is 
> arrogant and legitimately powerful enough within the WW to be a 
> potential danger to LV and it is certainly to LV to advantage to 
have something on Lucius to use if necessary. 


Ariadne again: I'm just wondering why Lucius would so openly support 
Snape, even after Dumbledore has vouched for him as a "past DE" in 
open trials. Lucius could be doing this on orders from Voldemort, but 
then, Snape is no fool...he would surely pick up on this fairly 
quickly. Of course, Snape already knows there's a huge risk involved 
as pointed out by Dumbledore in GOF, so that wouldn't necessarily 
stop him.

I agree with you that Voldy doesn't trust Lucius (or anyone, it 
appears!), but he does see his usefulness. So, I'm back to Ex-DE!
Lucius. Any supporters out there?!? Not since the beginning of course 
(the diary in COS doesn't support it), just since GOF and the return 
of Voldemort.