Lucius and Snape (was Secret Agent Snape in OotP)

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No: HPFGUIDX 76601

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ghinghapuss" <rredordead at a...> 
wrote:
> Ariadne says:
> <heavly snipped>
>  So, I'm back to Ex-DE! Lucius. Any supporters out there?!? Not 
since 
> the beginning of course the diary in COS doesn't support it), just 
> since GOF and the return of Voldemort.
> 
> Me: If not a DE where do you think Lucius stands? I don't agree 
with the ex-DE Lucius but I do believe Lucius switches sides and 
supports 
> whomever is on top and therefore can advance himself, his son and 
> family name for future generations. (He did warned Draco, in one of 
> the books I can't remeber which, PS I think, about the danger of 
> alienating Harry as Harry is considered the 'saviour' of the WW.)
> Lucius was definatly a DE during the first war, weasled out of any 
> responsiblity after LV defeat by baby Harry, and now I think he is 
> back where he really belongs, with Voldemort. 
> 
> But I'm very interested in hearing your thought on Ex-DE Lucius. Or 
> just point me in the direction of your other posts if I have missed 
> them.
> Mandy.


Ah, well, it's just a hunch really and here's why:

1)What's in it for a man like Lucius, to take up as a DE again when 
Voldemort isn't as powerful as before, doesn't have the same 
followers (and the followers he has are aging, recently released from 
prison, etc.), and esp. Voldemort has to contend with Harry Potter 
and OOTP at every turn? As you said, Lucius is in it for himself.  

2) Lucius would be the type to wait and see how the tide will turn. 
Since GOF, he's seen Voldemort's plans fail twice --Lucius could be 
keeping both doors open, one to the DE's and one to Snape and, 
indirectly, Dumbledore.

3)I DO believe he is into the pureblood mania, and perhaps the diary 
in COS was an attempt to bring Tom Riddle back, or perhaps really, he 
just underestimated the power of the diary and only meant to scare 
people. I don't believe he truly wanted to see Voldemort return and 
potentially ruin the "good life" he's made for himself and family.

4) Fear is a great motivator, but if fear is the only force pushing 
Lucius to join the DE's again, it will only motivate as long as it's 
more powerful than the alternative. Right now, with the MOM affirming 
Voldy's return, and with Lucius's connctions to Fudge, he may feel 
the power is shifting.  

5) Lucius directing the prophecy retrieval and his insistence on not 
hurting Harry. Yes, he said it was to protect the prophecy. Could 
there be alternative reasons? 

Just some ideas. I'm not convinced, but I'm wondering if there are 
other sides to Lucius, just as we've been pondering Lupin and 
Dumbledore's allegiance to the Order.  Ariadne