Pride and Prejudice (it's OT, honest!)

zesca nansense at cts.com
Mon Aug 11 20:53:47 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 76616

Anita Hillin <akhillin at r...> wrote:
> <Snip>
> I began to compare the James/Lily interaction with the proposal 
> scene between Elizabeth and Darcy in P & P, and I was struck with 
> the similarities.  James/Darcy is an arrogant, overconfident (not 
> without reason) young man who is smitten with  Lily/Elizabeth, and 
> he is rebuffed in no uncertain terms, to the point of saying "You 
> are the last man I'd ever be interested in dating/marrying."  

Madeyemood (me, that is):
Interesting you should bring this up since Rowling has described herself as=
 a 
major Austen fan.
 
For me, Sirius possesses more of a quality of Darcyness than bonnie James. =

* from an aristocratic background (where James seems middle or upper 
middle) 
* disdainfully places himself away from the company of most (James seems 
more extroverted, Sirius, more intro-)
* has a close relative (mom) who resembles Darcy's aunt (Lady Catherine) in=
 
her crazy, loudmouthed snobbery and rather extreme opinions about which 
marriages do justice to the family bloodline
* possesses aloof self-assurance married to a certain heaviness of purpose =

(although he seems to only have eyes for James.)

contextual differences that spring to mind between characters of the two 
books: 
* difference in the ages of the characters
* distinct absence of a sister so that both of the guys have a (hetero) lov=
e 
object


Pip!Squeak:
> But if Snape is an `anti-Wickham' then he will also continue to 
> change in our perception. Wickham appeared nice, and moral, and hard 
> done by, but underneath was morally rotten and incapable of remorse.
> 
> Snape appears nasty, and sadistic, and to have deserved every bad 
> thing he's ever got, but underneath 


Madeyemood (me, that is):
Ms. Squeak, your words got me thinking of a favorite Sondheim song. The 
following's an excerpt for you viewing pleasure:

She was smart, tart, dry as a martini. 
Ah, but underneath... 
She was all heart, something by Puccini, 
Ah, but underneath... 

In the depths of her interior 
Were fears she was inferior. 
And something even eerier.
But no one dared to query her superior exterior. 



Salutations,
madeyemood







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