[HPforGrownups] Re: Pride and Prejudice (it's OT, honest!)

Anita Hillin akhillin at rcn.com
Tue Aug 12 01:07:18 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 76637



bluesqueak <pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
The James/Darcy parallel is plausible, but I think that in comparing 
James/Snape to Darcy's treatment of Wickham, you are ignoring the 
Darcy/Jane Bennet parallels (which, as Wanda points out, may lead us 
into interesting territory).


akh: Thanks for your post to this.  In fact, I thought of this late last night, and I was beginning to work out other parallels, but that led me to more speculation than I was ready to post.  Snape's mistreatment is ONE reason Lily dislikes James, but there may be other wrongs we don't yet know.  Those MIGHT more closely parallel the Bennett/Darcy issue.

 
<Snip of interesting stuff>

Snape is not a Wickham. He might be an anti-Wickham figure though.

Wickham deserved Darcy's treatment of him. Snape (apparently) didn't 
deserve James's treatment of him.


akh: As far as we know, this is true.  I agree in the main that Snape is quite the opposite of Wickham, which would be wise on JKR's part, if she'd like to use the conceit but not muck it up with too many comparisons.



I hesitate to call Snape Mr Darcy ::blinks in vague horror:: but 
Snape starts off with Lily in pretty much the same way Darcy starts 
off with Elizabeth in the Assembly Rooms. He insults her. He's 
prejudiced against her because of her background. Again, it's anti-
Wickham, not Wickham (who is a flatterer).


akh: You're right, and it horrifies me, too.  Sirius fits rather well into the Darcy mold, too, with his good looks, patrician background and apparent disdain for the feelings of others.

  
James's `Darcy' role may parallel more Elizabeth's *correct* 
assessment of Darcy, who *was* arrogant, and rude, and interfering. 
The point with Darcy was that his good qualities outweighed his bad 
ones; and when his bad qualities were pointed out to him he was 
capable of recognising that he needed to change. Presumably, since 
James became Head Boy, he changed from the `worst memory' scene. 
Like Darcy, his good qualities outweighed his bad ones.

But if Snape is an `anti-Wickham' then he will also continue to 
change in our perception. Wickham appeared nice, and moral, and hard 
done by, but underneath was morally rotten and incapable of remorse.

Snape appears nasty, and sadistic, and to have deserved every bad 
thing he's ever got, but underneath …

Pip!Squeak

akh: I'd love to see this transformation, given how very much I enjoyed seeing the transformation in P & P.  That goes for the Snape transformation, too, and I'd like to see that he really was a rather horrible person and made better choices.  Whether we get the full scene or just moments remains to be seen.




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