Did Lupin do it? (was Tactics & Prescience)

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holly_phoenix_11:
> > ...it is really hard for me to be convinced that anyone, 
> > even Dumbledore, would sacrifice someone's life, even for the 
> > greater  good, especially if they trully belong to the good side...

lupinwolf2001:
> Hi Holly, I would think the same thing about Dumbledore but I found 
> the following reagarding Dumbledore just TOO incriminating...
> 
> 1.) During the death as Sirius is falling (arcing) into the veil of 
> death, why is there careful mention that Dumbledore turns towards the 
> dais. We know he can cast spells without a wand and just moments 
> before we see him " Dumbledore's spell pulled him back as easily and 
> effortlessly as though he had hooked him with an invisible line"... 
> Could Dumbldore have done the same for Sirius? I think so. But 
> instead the veil blows as if a great wind blew Sirius through it. 
> Conicidence? I think not.

madeyemood:
very interesting observation, LW2001. you've got my attention

lupinwolf2001: 
> 2.) Dumbldore tells Harry the following: "`There is no shame in what 
> you are feeling, Harry,' said Dumbledore's voice. `On the contrary
 the f=
act 
that you can feel pain 
> like this is your greatest strength." 

madeyemood:
one thinks, for instance, of the climactic moment in PS/SS where Vol. can't=
 
withstand contact with Harry's skin. 
then, in CoS, Harry's loyalty paves the way for two instrumental weapons 
against the basilisk: ability to summon Fawkes
in PoA, Harry's refusal to give in to his rage by killing Peter, his compas=
sion, is 
a much greater source of power than his desire to kill, kill, kill
in GoF---darn, i can't find that book for some reason, do the people come o=
ut 
of Vol's wand who advise him, including mom and dad, is that tied into that=
 
Love Power Thing?
These ideas do seem to line up.

lupinwolf2001: 
> So in Sirius's passing, Harry gains his greatest strength (the 
> ability to repel voldemort) which DD seems to think is CRUCIAL to the 
> epic struggle between good and evil. 

madeyemood:
is it possible to say that emotional power is an instinctual power source t=
hat 
needs to be liberated (released) then coaxed and disciplined?
Harry's life has such a bipolar quality! from hero to abused orphan to susp=
ect 
hero to hero again to weird kid associated with those weird dangerous 
people. if anything's gonna get your adrenalin going, it's quidditch, and h=
e's 
shown that he's resistant to cultivating the calming meditative powers 
necessary to becoming an accomplished occlumens.

lupinwolf2001: 
It is KEY that Harry have this 
> or else (by his own admission) DD would have killed a Voldemort 
> controlled Harry: "`Voldemort's aim in possessing you, as he 
> demonstrated tonight, would not have been my destruction. It would 
> have been yours. He hoped, when he possessed you briefly a short 
> while ago, that I would sacrifice you in the hope of killing him. 

madeyemood:
so, like, Voldy was going for the old bait n switch? he was counting on his=
 
powers to disentangle before the zap hit?

lupinwolf2001: 
> WHAT DID 
> I CARE IF NUMBERS OF NAMELESS and FACELESS PEOPLE AND 
CREATURES WERE 
> SLAUGHTERED IN THE VAUGE FUTURE, if in the here and now you were 
> alive, and well, and happy? I never dreamed that I would have such a 
> person on my hands.

madeyemood:
but sirius had both name and face, both of which mean a great deal to DD

lupinwolf2001:
> I believe wholeheartedly that DD was responsible for Sirius's death. 
> Done for the greater good to ensure that Harry recieved his greatest 
> weapon.

you certainly have made me wanna read the passage for the millionth time.
thanks, lw!

madeyemood