Did Lupin do it? (was Tactics & Prescience)

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No: HPFGUIDX 77092

!> > > > holly_phoenix_11:
> > > > ...it is really hard for me to be convinced that anyone, 
> > > > even Dumbledore, would sacrifice someone's life, even for the 
> > > > greater  good, especially if they trully belong to the good side...
> 
> massive snippage <
> 
> > lupinwolf2001: 
> > > WHAT DID 
> > > I CARE IF NUMBERS OF NAMELESS and FACELESS PEOPLE AND 
> > CREATURES WERE 
> > > SLAUGHTERED IN THE VAUGE FUTURE, if in the here and now you 
were 
> > > alive, and well, and happy? I never dreamed that I would have 
> such a 
> > > person on my hands.
> 
>  
> > madeyemood:
> > but sirius had both name and face, both of which mean a great deal to DD.
> 
> Marianne/kiricat:
> And this leads to another incongruity in the "Dumbledore Had to Kill 
> Sirius" idea.  DD seemed to have a certain fondness for Sirius in GoF 
> in that he helped find a hiding place so that Sirius could be near 
> Hogwarts for the Tournament.  He had also been in touch with Sirius 
> throughout the year, which had to have been a welcome interaction for 
> a man on the run who was pretty cut off from society.  He brings 
> Sirius in to be with Harry after the end of the Tournament.  

madeyemood:
Thanks for the response, Marianne! 
Very interesting. If it's possible you've provided me with even more motivation 
to find my copy of GoF.

> Marianne/kiricat:
> Then, in OoP, his professed reason for keeping Sirius locked up in 
> Grimmauld Place, as he states flat out to Harry, was that he wanted 
> to keep Sirius alive.  Okay, is he lying through his teeth here?  Or 
> is he shading the truth?  Is he telling Harry his original reason for 
> insisting Sirius stay hidden, and not telling Harry that 
> circumstances had changed over the months? In other words, had 
> Dumbledore's assessment of the situation indicated to him that Sirius 
> might have to be sacrificed in order to push Harry in a certain 
> direction?  And, that when Sirius showed up at the Dept. of 
> Mysteries, Dumbledore was presented with a golden oppportunity to 
> ensure that happened?
> 
  
madeyemood:
Sometimes I regard DD as an energetic anomale whose consciousness is 
difficult for most anyone to begin to comprehend. His extraordinary abilities 
include effortless transfiguration, time travel, ability to communicate with all 
sorts of beings, toy with his mortality. There's this way that he Knows that is 
beyond our ken. He's involved in some wacky chess game with an evil 
madman, and he needs to make sure that the "weaknesses" of his 
personality, such as attachment to any individual, don't impede the chances of 
an overall win.

That is, although he's a very downhome guy who can enjoy risking the 
occassional Bertie Bott's Bean (Alas, earwax!) and a fine pair of socks, he is 
one formidable wizard dude.

If I were in such a position, I don't think that I would reveal what I know 
because it would simply overwhelm those around me.

I can't imagine JKR's agenda including such a disclosure from DD. I just don't 
think it's her style. 

I wonder, once the books have been completed, how in depth JKR will go into 
the motivations of her characters. For obvious reasons she has to be rather 
closed of mouth now. Maybe in her sixties she'll write a tell-all about 
Dumbledore's unseemly nightlife!


> marianne:
> And, if that is indeed the case, how will Harry react to that, should
> he ever find out?

madeyemood:
I think DD would want to spare Harry that pain.

It's too late at night to know if I've done your questions justice. Thanks again 
for your insights about Sirius, Dumbledore and the Goblet of Fire.

madeyemood