DD responsible for L&J- Lily's sacrifice DD's doing

[sarah_haining]

No: HPFGUIDX 77101

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:

> I've pondered (and posted) on DDs actions with James and Lily 
before.
> I think Snape is an irrelevence in this scenario; what matters is 
DD and 
> what he knew. He knew the prophecy. One possible interpretation of 
> the prophecy *could* (not definite) foretell the deaths of the 
parents
> of the chosen one. If this is so, then the deaths have to happen to
> provide Voldemorts Bane.
> If true, DD had no alternative but to be prepared to sacrifice the 
parents
> of the child Voldy picked.
> And he's cold-blooded enough to do it.
> 
> Kneasy

Might be going off on a tangent a little here but my own theory on 
this is yes, Dumbledore knew that for Harry to be saved his parents 
would have to die. Not becuase of an untapped meaning in the 
prophecy, but because he knew that a baby would be no match for 
Voldy - the whole love-sacrifice scenario. But, I don't (or can't:) 
believe that DD is as cold blooded as all that; I think he told 
James, Lily, Alice and Frank about this. If Voldemort were to find 
them they knew that they would have to sacrifice themselves to 
protect their child. DD may have presumed that Lily and Alice would 
do this anyway but the stakes were too high to gamble the possible 
saviour of the wizarding world on a presumption.

The reason this works for me is becuase, like Wanda mentions, I 
can't believe that Lily was the first mother in the history of the 
Wizarding World to die to protect her child. In fact, her sacrifice 
was the first time ever anyone has shielded a loved one from the 
curse - even with the 'whole family cursing' going on during 
Voldemort's first reign (The Bones, the Prewetts, the Fawcetts...). 
That's not even including Grindlewald's reign. I'd expect at this 
time alone there would be more than one occasion where someone 
said 'Please, take me, just don't kill [name]'

Therefore I explain it away by DD telling the parents that Voldy was 
after their children, the Fidelus Charm would hide them but if they 
were found they would have to perform a Charm that would save their 
baby's lives. This protection would have to be specifically conjured 
before-hand, and would be incredibly tricky to perform. This would 
explain (for me, anyway) why it hasn't happened before now - it can 
only be done if you have prior knowledge that you are a target and 
if you are a very powerful wizard.

So yes, with refernce to your statement, Kneasy, I think DD was 
responsible for James and Lily's deaths but only in that he told 
them the Charm they would have to perform. :-)

-Sarah