Pondering that Secret Keeper thing

a_reader2003 carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Mon Aug 18 19:37:13 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 77848

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "meltowne" <meltowne at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "melclaros" <melclaros at y...> 
> wrote:
>  
> > See this is where I start to get confused.
> > "Nose against the window". So THIS person can see a house just 
not 
> > who is in it. Those who haven't been told the location of the HQ 
> > can't see the house.
> > 
> > I'm guessing that it all depends on precisly how the secret 
itself 
> is 
> > worded. The Potter's secret only hid THEM since from what 
Flitwick 
> > said it did not neccessarily hide thier HOUSE. The HQ IS a house 
> and 
> > so the whole thing becomes hidden. That's the best I can come up 
> with 
> > so far.
> 
> This would perhaps explain why James and Lily couldn't be their own 
> secret keepers.  If someone can't see you because they haven't been 
> told the secret, how can you tell them?  Someone who is not being 
> hidden must tell them.
> 
> Dumbledore is able to be the Order's secret keeper because it is 
the 
> house, not DD who is being hidden.
> 
> My questin is how Dumbledore, Hagrid, and anyone else knew where 
the 
> house was?  Hagrid had to be let in on the secret to be able to get 
> Harry after the attack, but Hagrid didn't really know much in terms 
> of details.
> 
> Did PP give Serius a series of notes to give to the appropriate 
> people telling them where J&L were hiding?  If he didn't, how did 
> they know where to find them?

A thought from CW:

The killing of Lily and James perhaps instantly destroyed the effect 
of the Fidelius charm ? And as the house was apparently also reduced 
to rubble as part of the attack, presumably any number of witches and 
wizards in the Godric Hollow area would immediately be able to see 
what had happened and send owls to all and sundry ? I posted a few 
week's ago something I had found in 'Quidditch through the ages' 
(76289), that Godric's Hollow had close associations with the history 
of Quidditch (it was where the Snitch was invented), so although it 
was perhaps not an all-wizard village like Hogsmead, there may have 
been quite a few wizards settled there because of this tradition, 
many of whom may have been close neighbours of Lily and James, even 
though they couldn't see them temporarily whilst the Fidelius charm 
was protecting them. I thought it was a very appropriate place for 
James to want to live anyway.





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