Pondering that Secret Keeper thing
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Mon Aug 18 22:38:44 UTC 2003
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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly" <keltobin at y...> wrote:
>
> Here are a few points I have been pondering regarding the Fidelius
> charm on the Godric Hollow House.
>
> 1. If Lily and James dying lifted the charm then why wasn't Harry
> protected as well. Harry was still alive, so the death of the
> occupants being the charm would mean baby Harry was not part of the
> spell. Also, if the owner of the house being dead lifts the
Fidelius
> charm, would that nullify the charm on Grimmauld Place now that
> Sirius is dead?
>
> 2. I think a key to this is the destruction of the house. We know
> from GoF (Chapter One: The Riddle House) that Avada Kadavra only
> kills the body when it hits (notice I say when it hits). It seems,
> however, that curses that don't hit a person can do quite a bit of
> destruction:
>
> "Another jet of green light flew from behind the silver shield.
This
> time it was the one-armed centaur, galloping in front of
Dumbledore,
> that took the blast and shattered into a hundred pieces. . .(OoTP
AM
> 814)"
>
> We also see some evidence of this is the graveyard scene in GOF
when
> the gravestone cracks after being hit with a curse. I assume this
is
> an effect of particularly strong curses or the walls of Hogwarts
> would be pockmarked with students missed attempts at each other.
>
> Therefore, I think that the destruction of the house shows that
quite
> a bit more went on at Godric's Hollow that a clean and easy killing
> of James and Lily.
Me: I think we can all agree with Kelly that there is more going on
here. JK has made a point that the snipets of what we read are just
the tips of the ice berg. Generally she explains things within a
couple of chapters or else during the course of a single novel.
However, the death (and the night) of James and Lilly have only been
explained in parts. So I think it's safe to assume that there is a
lot more going on...
But on to my point about what happend:
1. Sirus knew the township of where J and L were. But not the
house. The destruction of the house was the evidence Sirus had to
determine the exact location.
2. Voldermort was defeated with his failed AK curse on Harry that
fateful night. But it was Wormtail (Peter Pettigrew) who blew up the
house. The proof I offer is this: Having cornered Peter after L and
J's deaths, Sirus is framed by Peter in the death of several
Muggles. To paraphrase, Peter yelled to the crowd: How could you,
Sirus?!!?!? James and Lily?!?!? Then Peter (with his wand behind his
back) "blew up" the street, transformed into a rat, and ran into the
sewer with the other rats.
Any one ever notice that Peter knew how and could blow things up
to such a degree that mass death and destruction could occur? And
did anyone ever notice that James and Lily's house had also blow
up?
My theory is this: Voldermort killed James and Lily, attempted to
kill Harry all while Peter was outside watching and waiting. But he
realized that his Master was defeated-- not dead, but not alive; went
into the house to find the James and Lily dead, Harry alive, and
Voldermorts wand. Peter took his Master's wand and hid it before
Sirus caught up with him the next day. But before leaving he
attempted to kill Harry by blowing up the house. He reasoned that if
a direct curse from LV could not kill Harry, then he should try
something different. However, the charm that saved Harry's life
protects him not just from voldermort, but from voldermort's plans
and mingeons-- while living at the place where "his blood lives".
And where could his blood live, but at his parents's home?
I think this explanation helps explain, how Voldermort got his wand
back; why the house was destoryed and why Harry survived the
destruction of the house...
any thoughts?
"Alec"
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