We can't trust anyone...

Jim Ferer jferer at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 20 01:47:36 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78054

TJ:" Me here: I said he was going to slip, and try to kill Hermione.
Slip as in oops, that was a really stupid move. And he can't try to
kill Harry, LV would kill him. LV wants to Kill Harry. And if someone
else did and LV can't... wouldn't that make Snape the more powerful
wizard... that would bring LV calling to knock off Snape."

Not anymore.  Voldemort is so anxious now to kill Harry that he
wouldn't care  which of his followers kills him.  His DE's in the
Ministry didn't feel that restriction beyond protecting the prophecy,
and Barty!Moody, who was close to Voldemort, felt free to kill Harry
at the end of GoF.

TJ:" Me here: I didn't say DD betrayed Harry. I said he couldn't trust
him (and I guess I should have also said) *completely*."

You did say completely, but because Dumbledore didn't betray Harry,
Harry can still trust him.  It takes more than a desire to spare a boy
pain because you love him to make DD, or anyone else, untrustworthy. 
That's my point.  Harry will know now, I believe, that Dumbledore
won't withhold anything from him again.

TJ:" Yes yes yes.. that is why, Harry can't *trust* He must
assume that perfection, childish trust in the adults that we respect
and love goes out the window when we become adults. Trust is earned
and DD loves Harry. So what does that mean Harry won't listen to what
is said? No. But, it does mean that Harry has to wake up and know
that one of his parents best friend betrayed them. And while I don't
think DD will betray Harry. I do think that DD was a weak link for
Harry all through OOP. I don't think that Harry is going to forgive
that easily. So *complete* trust is gone."

I guess it's we have different feelings about the concept of trust. 
Blind, childish trust will be replaced by a more mature faith in the
loyalty and goodwill of those close to Harry, who will also think for
himself. My twelve year old daughter doesn't trust me the way she did
when she was three, but she still trusts me. IOW, Harry will have
grown up more.  

I think Harry will forgive Dumbledore, because I think Harry is smart
enough to understand what was in Dumbledore's heart and head. 
Dumbledore will remain Harry's guide for a while, until he leaves
Harry to carry on alone (by dying).

Jim Ferer






More information about the HPforGrownups archive