Umbridge's Rape (Was: Is Umbridge a Half-Breed???)

[S Handel]

No: HPFGUIDX 78173

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jwcpgh" <jwcpgh at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, > Abigail wrote: 
> > [huge snip]
> > > I'm not pleased by the way JKR wrote Umbridge.  > 
> > "jsmgleaner" <jsmgleaner at y...> wrote:
> 
> <snip> I had meant to point out that the many calls for Umbridge to 
> receive more 
> > punishment, particularly physical punishment, or the excitement 
> about the 
> > centaurs' possible revenge/justice can be read in another way, 
> paying 
> > attention to the overall ethics JKR is mapping out.  > > 

> 
> Laura:
> 
> A few things:
> 
> First, in my original post asking for ideas on punishments for 
> Umbridge, I did make it clear that any punishment imposed should be 
> *after* a public trial.  If the WW didn't learn anything else last 
> time around, I hope that they learned that in the realm of law, the 
> ends do NOT justify the means.  Corrupt procedure leads to corrupt 
> results-just ask Sirius (if you can find him...sigh).  

> 
> Having said all that, I am wierded out by the rape stuff too.  That 
> seems so *not* JKR to me.  And I also agree that the centaurs 
> wouldn't lower themselves-well, you know what I mean.

Sorry for the huge snips...With my line of work (investigator of 
rapes, and child abuse) I immediately thought of the rape aspect 
also.  I discounted it tho as it really didn't seem to fit the "feel" 
of the books.  I also considered that Hermoine says" Madame Pomfrey 
says she's just in shock."  The paragraph right before that 
says "Nobody really knew what was wrong with her either."  I do think 
that even in the WW the healers would check for signs of assault just 
as they do in the muggle world.  I am not saying that all of our 
first instincts are wrong....but ya know what they say about wise 'ol 
Hermoine!!
Susan