new thoughts after rereading SS/PS

mlle_bienvenu mlle_bienvenu at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 21 08:07:42 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78246

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sberinsky" <sberinsky at y...> 
wrote:
> The prophecy talks about voldemort marking harry, which I had 
always 
> taken to mean the scar.  In the first book though, Dumbledore 
refers 
> to Lily marking Harry with her love when she dies to save him.  In 
> the fourth book, Voldemort takes some of Harry's own blood, so he 
> can get the residing protection.  But it's almost like he's marking 
> himself with something good, wherease Harry is good but marked with 
> evil.  Like they compliment each other, and in a very strange way 
> slowly becoming one.  In the fifth book, this trend continues, with 
> Harry lapsing into Voldemorts thoughts, and at the end, with 
> Voldemort possessing him.
> 
> In book two, Harry himself points out how much he is like Tom 
> Riddle.  Except where Tom is choosing evil, Harry is choosing 
good.  
> Opposites.  And Harry shows mercy (book three, when he does not 
> allow pettigrew to be killed) wherease Voldemort does not (his 
> ditching Quirrel in book one).
> 
> The problem with all these theories, is that I cannot tell where 
> it's going.  Summarizing, Harry and Voldemort are seeming to become 
> one creation, (I keep thinking of them like a Yin and Yang) but 
> where do we go from here?
> 
> Stacy

Mlle Bienvenu: You know, I've had a theory about that. I haven't 
really fleshed it out. There really isn't a lot of supporting canon. 
But maybe other people will have some thoughts on it.

To me, LV's motivation has always been his fear of death. I think 
more than love of power and recognition, the fear of dying has 
motivated him. What he says to DD in OotP confirms my belief "What 
could be worse than death?" (I paraphrase) Also look at the things 
he's done; he's preserved himself in a diary, he's taken precautions 
which allowed him to become a 'shade' when his curse blows up in his 
face, he's not only been reborn, but reborn in such a way as to allow 
some protection from his mortal enemy.  

By the time Harry was born, LV was already an old man nearing the end 
of his life. What if Voldemort wasn't trying to kill Harry, but 
transfer his own soul into Harry's body? (and in essence, become 
young again) But something backfired and stopped the process 
(probably something to do with Lily) This would explain the mental 
connection between LV and Harry, and why Harry's got the same gifts 
LV has got, and also why LV chose Harry, who was most like him, in 
looks and in background. It would also explain the vagueness of the 
whole situation. The books never said specifically that it was an AK 
Harry saw. And even though everyone's said LV was trying to kill 
Harry, the soul transferring spell may have killed him anyway. (two 
scenarios, it's a soul-tranferring spell which basically shoves the 
other person's soul out, or it's a soul-switching spell which would 
put harry in LV's body and LV in Harry's body. Both cases effectivly 
kill Harry, as far as I can see.) 

Eh, I don't know. I've been toying with the idea for some time, just 
thought I get it out there.

Mlle Bienvenu





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