[HPforGrownups] Unforgiveable v. Illegal (Was: Re: Umbridge (WAS: Umbridge's Rape)

[eowynn_24]

No: HPFGUIDX 78342



KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:
jsmgleaner:
By the way, that makes me think: why "unforgivable"?  Have people 
on this list parsed that word choice already?  I mean, as opposed 
to "illegal," although I know that Fake!Moody uses that term in the 
GoF chapter as well.

Shirley:  
I don't know why the "unforgivable" label, either, 
because "illegal" seems more appropriate to me.  Unforgivable to 
whom?  But maybe I'm just being obtuse.

KathyK:

Avada Kedavra:  Three words, "Kill the spare."
Cruciatus:  Torturing people, sometimes to the point of insanity.
Imperius:  Removing someone's free will.

To me, they're called unforgivable because they're three curses that 
give an individual much too much power over other people.  To use 
them in the manner they're used in the books is, IMO, "Unforgivable."
KathyK

Eowynn:

I agree with kathy on this. In POA Harry and Lupin are talking about the Dementors kiss and how it would be the fate of Sirius:

POA ch12 pg247 US edition: 

" He deserves it..."
"You think so? Do you really think anyone deserves that..."
"Yes...for...for some things..."
Some things are just hard to forgive people for, now i know that conversation didn't have anything to do with the "unforgivable" curses, but it demonstrates what i am trying to say. You see there are already illegal curses, charms, etc... So how do you define something that is worse than all of those? You deem it unforgivable, it shows the magnitude of these particular curses and evil they are. IMO they help to create a better picture of the turmoil that they cause.

Eowynn
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