Lupin's personality (WAS Re: Lupin as next Headmaster)
jwcpgh
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Sun Aug 24 03:39:34 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 78567
Okay, this is going to be tricky, keeping everyone's attributions
straight. I'll do my best, but I apologize in advance if I screw
up.
Ev vy wrote:
> Frankly, I disagree with the opinion that anything that Lupin did
> was done out of cowardice. I think that what motivated him (and
> still does) is his self-preservation and also a very strong sense
of pragmatism.
Maria
<snip>there is a definite element of cowardice in Lupin's inability
to stand up to his friends in Pensieve Scene II...let's look at this:
"Did I ever tell you to lay off Snape?" he said. "Did I ever have the
guts to tell you I thought you were out of order?" (Careers Advice,
OOP)
Marina:
> > I suspect that his [Lupin's]current ability to keep the people
around him in line comes not so much from increased moral
authority as from increased facility for judging how far he can
afford to go, and which buttons he needs to push. I think the adult
Remus is a rather manipulative man, actually.
Maria:
> Oh, yes. Definitely. And the best phrase to illustrate Marina's
words would be Lupin's "Your parents gave their lives to keep you
alive, Harry. A poor way to repay them gambling their sacrifice for
a bag of magic tricks." (Snape's Grudge, POA)
> Elkins:
> Even Lupin's compassion could, viewed in a certain light, make him
> seem a little suspicious, because it's a compassion born of
> sensitivity and insight, of the ability to "read" others, to deduce
> other people's personal vulnerabilities and motives. <snip> On a
certain level, an emotionally astute individual *is* a spy -- he
knows your secrets...or at least he makes you feel as if he does --
and I don't think that it did much for the others' sense of security
around Lupin. I think that his very sensitivity probably made him
seem suspect.
<snip> [W]hile wisely used that sort of sensitivity can lead to
compassion, used with ill-intent it turns to sadism. If you can tell
where somebody's vulnerabilities lie, then you may know how to help
them, but you also really know how to *hurt* them. And while Lupin
rarely uses his sensitivity cruelly, he certainly does know *how* to
do it. His rebuke to Harry at the end of Chapter 14...is
devestatingly effective. It's also slightly...one might even be
tempted to call it "vicious." Lupin really does know how to target
the jugular, and there are times when I get the definite sense that
he's got a bit of a taste for it as well. He's not a sadist...but he
could be, and if he ever did go bad, I think that's exactly how he'd
do it.
>
Now me (Laura)
Wow. Remus just can't win here, can he? When he doesn't speak up,
he's a coward, or coldly pragmatic, and when he does, he's
manipulative and potentially vicious.
It's interesting to compare Sirius, Remus and Severus as kids and as
adults. Each of them had significant personal prlblems in their pre-
Hogwarts lives, difficulties they bring with them to school. They
carry their emotional baggage in very different ways. Remus becomes
docile and avoids confrontation in order tomaintain his secret and
keep his friendships at the same time. Sirius acts cocky and
arrogant in order to hide the rejection he has experienced from his
parents. Snape adopts a stance of constant defensiveness, treating
everyone as a potential enemy and then acting resentful and bitter
when they respond in kind. It seems to me that Remus has learned the
most from his mistakes in adolescent strategy. He's seen the results
of failing to act to prevent harm being done to someone else. He's
also learned a lot about human behavior-what motivates people, what's
important to them. Adult!Remus puts those lessons together and
becomes a force for good. He teaches, both literally and by example,
how to handle darkness, whether it takes the form of a creature, a
spell or a moral weakness. So when he scolds Harry for sneaking into
Hogsmeade, it's from the point of view of someone who knows that
seemingly harmless acts can have dreadful consequences. Not only is
he trying to correct his past failures, he's trying to help Harry
avoid the same ones. He has to speak forcefully so Harry will think
about what the consequences of his acts could be. I wouldn't call
that manipulation-I'd call that caring. Sure, he knows what to say
to get to Harry. That's not because he's cruel, but because he has
learned to look inside people (to see others as "thou" rather
than "it", in the terminology of Martin Buber). He responds to each
person so as to acknowledge their uniqueness-Harry's headstrong
impulsiveness, Hermione's earnest scholarliness, Neville's sadness
and fear, Sirius's frustration and emotionality. He's always careful
to speak to Snape with calm and respect, understanding Snape's
bitterness need for control and knowing what part he played in
creating them. (His decision not to fight for his job after Snape
outs him seems like penance to me.) I never get any feeling at all
from Remus that he has a nasty streak, either as a child or as an
adult. And goodness knows, with James and Sirius around, he could
have picked up all the instruction he needed. If people respond to
Remus's empathy with suspicion, maybe that's because we so rarely
encounter the real thing in our lives, sad to say.
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