My Post Again

severusbook4 severusbook4 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 26 15:10:17 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78839

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Carolina <silmariel at t...> 
wrote:
> Severus:
> 
> << O.K. Let me start by saying that there is no real proof to
>  support the Harry is gay train of thought, but there is quite a
>  bit to support that he is straight.>>
> 
> You take that as an axiom, that leads you to believe the next 
quote:
> 
> <<My opinion that Harry is straight is based on written proof but 
is 
> flamed while some ones homosexual fantasy, that has no reason to 
be 
> in a book discussion forum, is alright?>>
> 
> Here is the point. The written proof is the same for all parts. 
They 
> see their experience. Take the 'Bill was cool' line. A friend of 
> mine had only this bit, that he though a couple of boys were cool. 
> He was the first surprised to discover he was bi at 22. Tell him 
> Harry is not a bisexual and he'll look puzzled because he 
> identifies with him at sexual development.  
> 
> Are you calling his experiences a sexual fantasy? I'll inform him 
he 
> doesn't exist and his experiences have no reason to count in an 
> adult book discussion forum. 
> 
> He's got the same canon as you, sorry.
> 
> <<Please explain this to me, I thought we were discussing 
> the books and our theories of what may happen and who is or is not 
a 
> DE supporter.  >>
> 
> Then we should ban every SHIP post, not the gay ones.
> 
> <<Where did the gay thread come from?>>
> 
> The gay thread started the day discussions started, and it is as 
old 
> as the human being :)
> 
> In fact I think we were discussing the Harry/Bill subtext, or that 
> is where I catched the thread. 
> 
> silmariel

Snape here:
     I have to disagree, what I stated has happened in the book, 
what your friend is doing is speculation, Harry has not looked at 
another male and felt the warm fuzzies as he did with Cho.  I have 
alot of gay friends, and enjoy there company, and find some of them 
pretty damn cool, but let us not confuse cool with sexual attraction.
     Any one with an imagination can identify with Harry at some 
point in the books, but that recognition does not change what 
actually happened.  I am not calling your friends experience a 
fantasy, but did Harry discover he was "bi" after this 
observation?   No, he just thought Bill was cool, not hot, or sexy, 
just cool.  Also your friend did not create a fantasy about two male 
characters falling in love and state that it would be great. That is 
fantasy and has no proof.
     Most people know at a very early age that they are or are not 
homosexual, my sister knew at nine, her life partner claims even 
younger, I knew I was straight in the first grade and my first 
crush's name was Heidi.  Some one discovering that they are "bi" at 
22 seems abit of a stretch, he must have lived a very sheltered life 
or was in denial of his feelings.  But that is just my opinion, I am 
not an expert on homosexual developement, but have many friends and 
relatives that are "gay" and they speak openly about it.  Until it 
states in the next books that Harry has a mad crush on another male, 
I will maintain that Harry is straight by his actions in the 
Potterverse.  

Severus 







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