My Post Again
severusbook4
severusbook4 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 26 15:10:17 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 78839
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Carolina <silmariel at t...>
wrote:
> Severus:
>
> << O.K. Let me start by saying that there is no real proof to
> support the Harry is gay train of thought, but there is quite a
> bit to support that he is straight.>>
>
> You take that as an axiom, that leads you to believe the next
quote:
>
> <<My opinion that Harry is straight is based on written proof but
is
> flamed while some ones homosexual fantasy, that has no reason to
be
> in a book discussion forum, is alright?>>
>
> Here is the point. The written proof is the same for all parts.
They
> see their experience. Take the 'Bill was cool' line. A friend of
> mine had only this bit, that he though a couple of boys were cool.
> He was the first surprised to discover he was bi at 22. Tell him
> Harry is not a bisexual and he'll look puzzled because he
> identifies with him at sexual development.
>
> Are you calling his experiences a sexual fantasy? I'll inform him
he
> doesn't exist and his experiences have no reason to count in an
> adult book discussion forum.
>
> He's got the same canon as you, sorry.
>
> <<Please explain this to me, I thought we were discussing
> the books and our theories of what may happen and who is or is not
a
> DE supporter. >>
>
> Then we should ban every SHIP post, not the gay ones.
>
> <<Where did the gay thread come from?>>
>
> The gay thread started the day discussions started, and it is as
old
> as the human being :)
>
> In fact I think we were discussing the Harry/Bill subtext, or that
> is where I catched the thread.
>
> silmariel
Snape here:
I have to disagree, what I stated has happened in the book,
what your friend is doing is speculation, Harry has not looked at
another male and felt the warm fuzzies as he did with Cho. I have
alot of gay friends, and enjoy there company, and find some of them
pretty damn cool, but let us not confuse cool with sexual attraction.
Any one with an imagination can identify with Harry at some
point in the books, but that recognition does not change what
actually happened. I am not calling your friends experience a
fantasy, but did Harry discover he was "bi" after this
observation? No, he just thought Bill was cool, not hot, or sexy,
just cool. Also your friend did not create a fantasy about two male
characters falling in love and state that it would be great. That is
fantasy and has no proof.
Most people know at a very early age that they are or are not
homosexual, my sister knew at nine, her life partner claims even
younger, I knew I was straight in the first grade and my first
crush's name was Heidi. Some one discovering that they are "bi" at
22 seems abit of a stretch, he must have lived a very sheltered life
or was in denial of his feelings. But that is just my opinion, I am
not an expert on homosexual developement, but have many friends and
relatives that are "gay" and they speak openly about it. Until it
states in the next books that Harry has a mad crush on another male,
I will maintain that Harry is straight by his actions in the
Potterverse.
Severus
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