Predicting the future, Trelawney style

tubadave tubadave at normalview.com
Wed Aug 27 13:26:24 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78983

I've posted a couple of time in the Movie spinoff of this group, but I
don't remember if I've made an appearance over here before or not. If
not, hi, I'm David, I'm 27, and I'm from Texas, and I love discussions
for predictions of events in Books 6 & 7 more than anything, so I'll
jump in with a long-winded response here.


Now, with the pleasantries completed, on with the show:



eligro predicts: 

> 1. Harry: Direct descendant of BOTH Godric Gryffindor and Salazar 
> Slytherin.
> EVIDENCE: Ability to open the COS, the Sorting Hat's gift, 
> Parseltongue, parents from Godric Hollow, yada yada dada

Dave responds:

Him being a direct descendant of Godric Gryffindor wouldn't surprise
me at all; in fact, I've been waiting patiently to find out that very
thing since CoS, but JKR may not have that in mind, I don't know.

However, I seriously doubt that there is any direct relation to
Slytherin. His ability to open the CoS was due to his being able to
speak Parseltongue, and it was mentioned in the 2nd book that this
ability was most likely passed to him from Voldemort.

CoS, American paperback edition, pg. 332-333:

"You can speak Parseltongue, Harry," said Dumbledore calmly, "because
Lord Voldemort---who *is* the last remaining ancestor of Salazar
Slytherin---can speak Parseltongue. Unless I'm much mistaken, he
transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that
scar. Not something he intended to do, I'm sure...."

It's stated in such a way that Dumbledore could be wrong for assuming,
but then the theory seems to hold up in OotP, when the prophecy
mentions that "the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal."



eligro predicts: 

> 2. Lily Evans: Tom Riddle's daughter and Petunia Dursley's half-
> sister. 
> EVIDENCE: It's all in the eyes.

Dave responds:

Although JKR has made mention of the fact that Harry's eyes resembling
those of his mother will play some important role at some point, I
don't see a relation to Tom Riddle being the way it goes.



eligro predicts: 

> 3. Dumbledore done for.
> EVIDENCE: He's gettin' up there. Plus it's so preciously Obi-Wan.
He 
> did acknowledge that he loves Harry in OOP. His + Lily's love = one 
> gosh darn big-a*$ protective charm.

Dave responds:

I wholeheartedly agree with this one, and I like the Star Wars
parallel....the "remove the mentor so that the student can come into
his own" kind of theme. It happens in the original movie, and sort of
happens again in Return of the Jedi (with the death of Yoda.) I think
we will likely see the demise of Dumbledore, possibly in the 6th book,
setting up Harry to come into his own in the 7th. Remember, JKR has
been quoted as saying that Sirius' death in OotP was "the beginning of
the deaths."



<snipping #4, as I actually did read this far>


 
eligro predicts: 

> 5. Percy: A double agent. 
> EVIDENCE: Noted to be lurking in the COS Slytherin halls. Didn't 
> visit his dad in hospital (who does that, I ask you?!).

Dave responds:

This one, I've noticed, has already been debated quite a bit, and I'll
leave it alone, other than to say that I don't think Percy is anything
more than a pro-Ministry, power-hungry young man who has just lost his
way for a while. I hope he finds his way back eventually.



eligro predicts:

> 6. Draco: Drawn to the light side, a la Snape. Reluctant and pissy, 
> but ultimately a good egg (scrambled, not poached).
> EVIDENCE: Just a hunch. With Lucius haranguing Draco for his lack
of 
> success and now in prison ... Parental resentment can go a long
way. 
> Also, OOP foreshadowing notes that at least one Slytherin will have 
> to help.

Dave responds:

I've toyed with this idea numerous times, and I still don't know. I
don't think there's been enough evidence given yet (whether red
herrings or not) to support this. I wouldn't put it past JKR to do it,
though.



eligro predicts: 

> 7. More time for time-turners.
> EVIDENCE: JKR said that Book 7 would explain what happens to the 
> gang. How best to do that but through a story that involves time 
> travel ... keep turnin' 'til the story ends right.

Dave responds:

I am of the opinion that JKR, having once resorted to time travel as a
major plot device in PoA, will not use it again. I have no evidence
one way or the other, just a hunch. Up to this point, she hasn't
struck me as being all the repetitive with her plot devices.



eligro predicts: 

> 8. Harry and Ginny, Ron and Hermione, Dumbledore and McGonagall.
> EVIDENCE: Who knows? The first two pairs seem perfect together. As 
> re: the third, well, it must get lonely at Hogwarts over the summer.

Dave responds:

Harry and Ginny would be my preference, but the introduction of Luna,
combined with the uncertainty of what's going to become oh Harry when
the final battle commences, keeps me from being too sure about it.

Ron and Hermione, on the other hand, is a sure thing in my mind. All
of their bickering, Ron's behavior towards Viktor Krum, the shouting
match after the Yule Ball, all of the comparisons that have been made
between Hermione and Molly Weasley....if JKR doesn't plan to put the
two of them together, then she should be arrested for Criminally
Excessive Use of Red Herrings. <g>



eligro predicts: 

> 9. Something will happen to Neville.
> EVIDENCE: Something always happens to Neville.

Dave responds:

I'm almost positive that you're right about this one. lol 

I think quite a few somethings will happen to Neville, maybe some very
big somethings. His rapid improvement, Re: The D.A., and the fact that
he was the other wizard boy the prophecy could have been talking about
tells me that he will have a major role to play before it's all over.



eligro predicts: 
 
> 10. Snape will prove his worthiness by sacrificing his life to save 
> Harry.
> EVIDENCE: None. But it would be a good twist!

Dave responds:

Snape confuses me more than any other character. I don't know what to
make of him. Is he really reformed? I've watched a lot of the debate
in this forum concerning Snape, and there are a lot of differing
opinions on him.




And now, one prediction from me:

I think that, eventually, we may see Wormtail do something to save
Harry, or in some other way reform himself, due to the life-debt he
owes to Harry from PoA. Dumbledore's exact words:

PoA, American paperback edition, pg. 427:

"This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable, Harry. But trust
me...the time may come when you will be very glad you saved
Pettigrew's life."






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