[HPforGrownups] Re: Bang! You're Dead. (was:Voldemorts animus...)
lovefromhermione at yahoo.com
lovefromhermione at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 2 00:11:38 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 86263
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Kneazy:
Note also that Moody was supposed to be the star
Auror. Is he evil or stricken with a conscience that
makes him run around chanting "Mea culpa?" No. It's
also canon that the old Order had other Aurors as
members. Didn't
seem to bother Dumbledore much, so far as I can see.
As the epitome of goodness you would expect him to
take an immovable moral stand, but I can't find any
evidence of this. Moody is mentioned as one of his
oldest friends, not an untouchable pariah who
participated in Dark Magic.
Berit replies:
But are there any canon evidence to suggest that the
majority of WW accepted that it was a necessary "evil"
that the Aurors used the unforgivables (I can believe
this though; the majority very often go with the
flow...)? Any canon to suggest that the old Order
found it okay? And where's the canon evidence
Dumbledore DIDN'T object? He objected to the Ministry
being in league with Dementors... I can't see how
using the unforgivables is any better than befriending
those foul creatures...
Julie:
Dumbledore doesn't strike me as the kind of person who
pushes his ideas off on other people. He guides and
instructs, but rarely commands. Like at the
end-of-the-year feast in GoF, he doesn't look directly
at Malfoy and say, "You've picked the losing side!"
That's a tactic of the dark side, where they bully,
threaten and control. This is what makes him so
powerful, his remarkable love and respect for
everyone, and a willingness to give people second
chances.
There are tons of examples of DD's "looking the other
way." When he finds Harry staring into the Mirror of
Erised he doesn't tell him off for being out of bed
and out of bounds, but rather uses the prime teaching
moment. When Harry was talking smack about "that
Skeeter cow" DD looked at the ceiling and became
momentarily deaf to what Harry was saying.
Whether or not he disapproved of using Unforgivables,
I don't think he would mandate that the Order agree
with him. (Look at Mundungus, obviously a crook, but
we never hear DD's feelings about that, just that he
uses Dung's already well-placed ears)
Julie, an avid Dumbledore fan
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