THe nature of the Unforgivables(was Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Bang!You're dead.)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 86658

> > Angel:
> > But this raises an interesting question. In Moody's lesson he talks
> > about using AK, and said he wouldn't get a nosebleed if the whole
> class
> > did it. If Neville had had the torture of his parents uppermost in his
> > mind and all the hatred at Crouch, could he have killed Moody, at that
> > point, because of it?
> >
> 
> 
> K :
> I think, had Neville *known* it was a DE standing in front of him he
> *might* have been able to kill him (although I think there's a good
chance he'd
> only be able to muster that much hatred at the Lestranges), but
surely he'd
> have had to know that the person he was casting AK on i.e. Moody was
in fact
> Crouch - if not maybe they should get someone capable of casting the AK,
> someone who (presumably) is skilled at Dark Arts and hates Death Eaters
> (oh say, Snape) to run through a list of all the known DEs in his
head and
> cast AK on the new DADA teacher each year if said teacher then suddenly
> dropped dead they'd know he/she was an impostor.
> 
> Angel:
> The problem is that Quirrellmort wasn't an impostor, he merely had more
> attached to him than one might expect.
> 
> Crouch jnr was involved in the torture of the longbottoms, and Neville
> would have known that. I'm merely wondering how the focus of hatred
> works.

Carol:
I don't think the identity of the person you're aiming AK at
matters--only the anger and hatred of the person casting the spell.
The Death Eaters undoubtedly AKd anonymous Muggles and some of the DEs
tried to AK Harry's friends in the MoM without knowing who they were.
PP succeeded in AKing Cedric without knowing his identity (I'm
guessing that, having killed all those Muggles, he was sufficiently
evil to cast an AK without having any personal reason to do so other
than the powerful motivation provided by the fear of Voldemort). In
other words, when you AK a person, you're not saying "Avada Kedavra
Barty Crouch!" You're just saying "Avada Kedavra," and if your power
and your desire to kill are strong enough, the person will die. So
Snape couldn't just aim an AK at the new DADA teacher to see if he or
she would die. The person would die whether he hated them or not. As
for Nevill, he lacks both the power and the malice to AK anybody, even
Barty Jr. if he had known who he was and what he had done. Remember,
Harry couldn't successfully Crucio Bellatrix, who had just killed
Sirius and was gloating about it. The same thing would have happened
to Neville if he had tried to AK Imposter!Moody knowing the full truth.

Carol