THe nature of the Unforgivables(was Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Bang!You're dead.)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 86673

Angel:
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Crouch jnr was involved in the torture of the longbottoms, and Neville
would have known that. I'm merely wondering how the focus of hatred
works.
> 
> I suspect  that  hatred would not be enough.
> 
> Crouch!Moody also says  that "AK's a curse that needs a powerful bit of
> magic behind it" and that he's "not going to  teach them how to do it."
> 
> Presumably the same sort of conditions apply to the  other two 
> 'unforgivables' as well. A user would need to learn them and the wizard 
> needs to have more than average power to cast them successfully. So
> it's a bit more  than just waving a wand and saying Crucio!.
> 
> The question then arises, when and  where did Harry learn the basics of
> the  Crucio!  curse?
> 
> Another bit of Voldy to go along with his Parceltongue gift?
> 
> Kneasy

Carol:
Possibly when Voldemort used it on him in the graveyard? But I don't
think there are any "basics" beyond the word itself, the power of a
full-fledged wizard, and the will to inflict pain. Harry clearly
lacked the last two items on the list.

As for "the focus of the hatred," I'm pretty sure it focuses on the
person that the wand is aimed at, whom it is not necessarily to hate
personally any more than Crouch!Moody personally hated the spiders he
tortured and killed in his DADA lesson. (And as I noted in another
post, Peter Pettigrew had no personal grudge against Cedric. You
simply "aim" all your anger and ill will at your intended victim,
regardless of the presence or absence of personal feelings.)

I very much doubt that Neville will ever cast an Unforgiveable Curse.
He's had about fourteen years to come to terms with his parents'
condition and its cause and he has never, as far as we can tell from
observing him, harbored a desire for revenge. He will fight for
justice, but he will never use the enemies' weapons or emulate them in
any way. just my opinion.

Carol