Are Malfoy and Fudge the real masterminds? wasDid voldemort mean to allow
ghinghapuss
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Wed Dec 10 21:58:13 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 86895
> Jen R wrote:
> <snip> Then he would
> definitely place himself in a position of power, if he's working
> with Fudge in an attempt to overthrow both the Order and LV! He may
> have even alerted Fudge to the fact LV is back, but been behind the
> scenes orchestrating the trail of mishaps that the Order members
and DE's were both prone to througout OOTP. Lucius led the failed
> attempt to obtain the Prophecy, perhaps inadvertently aiding the
> Order in luring LV to the MOM?
Mandy again:
I really like your idea here. Could Lucius Malfoy be working with
Fudge to destroy both the Order and Voldemort. If could fit.
Fudge wants Dumbledore gone and Lucius needs Voldemort off his back.
I think Lucius has learned as he grew up he doesn't need an Evil
Overlord to take control of the WW but a compliant Minister of Magic
will do just as well. In fact better. As Fudge is aboveboard and
legal where Voldemort is living on borrowed time so to speak, no bad
guy stays in power for long, but a corrupt politician after corrupt
politician in Malfoy's pocket could be in power for decades. If
Lucius plays his card right he can have as much freedom as he wants
to create a WW that suits Lucius idea of perfect. Eventually passing
law against, mixed-blood wizard/witches, magical-non-humans and the
like.
Perhaps they are working together. Malfoy hopes to cause the downfall
of LV and the DEs at the DoM. Fudge almost achieves the downfall of
Dumbledore using Umbridge at Hogwarts. And ultimately the Order will
fall without their beloved leader Dumbledore. Leaving the two of them
sitting pretty with no one standing in their way.
This could give Fudge the reason to keep Lucius out of jail in book
6. If he can prove Malfoy was working for him to lure Voldemort and
the DE's to the DoM in the first place. The question is would Lucius
and Fudge have known the Order would have turned up? Or was it a
bonus? Dumbledore was already in trouble and Hogwarts was under the
control of the Ministry anyway, which we know has been a goal of
Malfoy's since CoS. Fudge was well on the way to discrediting
Dumbledore and with out Dumbledore the Order would have crumbled. So
it could have been a bonus EXCEPT now, if Fudge is not careful,
Dumbledore could be seen as the hero of the day not Fudge himself.
Another thought is perhaps Lucius could have used Snape and Kreature
to encourage the Orders participation, leading to a pitch battle in
the Ministry that could only lead to arrests on both sides. WE know
the Order was at the Ministry to save Harry but will the WW see it
that way? Or will they see the Order as bad as the DEs, also
breaking into the Ministry illegally to do heaven knows what? Can
Fudge spin that?
The only problem with this theory is it renders Voldemort redundant.
And if Voldemort is redundant so is Harry Potter and then we have no
reason for the books in the first place. ;-) Also having Lucius in
jail allows Draco to step up to the plate and slip into his daddy's
shoes. Which I really do want to see.
Any more thoughts?
Mandy, who is loving the idea that Lucius Malfoy is the mastermind
behind the whole DoM incident.
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