Fidelius swap was Re: The Sorting Hat
ghinghapuss
rredordead at aol.com
Mon Dec 22 23:08:33 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 87471
Pippin wrote:
> I think Sirius considered himself the match of Voldemort in
> Cleverness and far more clever than the Death Eaters. I'm sure
> Sirius considered himself quite clever enough to elude the
> Death Eaters for as long as necessary, IMO, and he might well
> have been right about that. After all, he eluded the far more
> numerous aurors for two whole years, and they were no nearer
> catching him when he died.
Mandy here:
I think Sirius may have though himself a match for the DE's but
Voldemort! I don't think even Sirius was that arrogantly stupid.
Oh, he was both arrogant and stupid as well as immature but come on,
if Sirius believed himself a match for LV, and was a `brave' as so
many wrongly believe imo, he would have gone after Voldemort
personally to protect his best friend.
> Pippin wrote:
> I don't think either James or Sirius ever considered what would
> happen if Sirius got caught, because Sirius never planned to be
> taken alive. He says that he would have died rather than betray
> Peter, and I'm sure both he and James believed that.
Mandy here:
If that is true, it's another example of how naive Sirius was. The
statement that he would rather die than betray his friends are words
that come from the mouth of someone who has nothing to loose. No
family: no wife, no children, no parents. It's easy to take that
stand when the only person who may be threatened by your bravery, is
the very person you are trying to protect, in Sirius' case James
Potter. Given the choice between James Potter and Peter or Remus,
Sirius would choose James with out thinking twice. Lupin and I
believe Peter (except we have no canon to support this yet) had
families. If I was being tortured for the where abouts of my
friend and my loved ones were threatened; I'd choose my family.
Sirius was the best choice for Secret Keeper because he had nothing
to loose and was extremely loyal to his friend James. Anyone could
see that Peter and Remus were weaker choices simply because they
would be more likely to break under LV. For Sirius to refuse this
job was insane. Dumbledore would never have approved. I can't
imagine what Sirius was doing other than surrendering to his fear.
Pippin wrote:
> Sirius's idea, IMO, was that he would lead the DE's a merry
> chase, deliberately draw their fire, and force them to waste time
> and resources hunting him.
Mandy here:
Very romantic and something that might come from Dumbledore but I
don't believe that was Sirius idea at all. If he truly believed he
was a match for LV he would have taken on the job of secret keeper
and led the DE's on a chase.
> Kneasy wrote:
> Besides, I don't think Sirius is a real 'goodie' anyway. That's
> why he had to die.
Pippin replied:
> Listen to the Centaurs, Kneasy. Sirius died because he was
> *innocent*. The villains die in the last ditch, because there's no
> story without them.
Mandy wrote:
The only crime Sirius was innocent of was the murder of 13 people.
He died because he was guilty of betraying his best friend and
responsible for James and Lily's murder. Sirius knew this. It's why
he was so desperately trying to make up to Harry all the time. It's
why he resigned in the end. Guilt hung around Sirius neck like a
millstone.
He was one of the good guys for a brief shining moment. Between the
times he left his family and betrayed James Potter. Ofcourse he
didn't mean to betray James but he did. It is what makes for great
tragedy.
Mandy
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