Fidelius swap was Re: The Sorting Hat

ghinghapuss rredordead at aol.com
Mon Dec 22 23:08:33 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 87471

Pippin wrote: 
> I think Sirius considered himself the match of Voldemort in 
> Cleverness and far more clever than the Death Eaters. I'm   sure 
> Sirius considered himself quite clever enough to elude the 
> Death Eaters for as long as necessary, IMO,  and he might well 
> have been right about that. After all, he eluded the far more 
> numerous aurors  for two whole years, and they were no nearer 
> catching him when he died. 

Mandy here: 
I think Sirius may have though himself a match for the DE's but 
Voldemort!  I don't think even Sirius was that arrogantly stupid.  
Oh, he was both arrogant and stupid as well as immature but come on, 
if Sirius believed himself a match for LV, and  was a `brave' as so 
many wrongly believe imo, he would have gone after Voldemort 
personally to protect his best friend.


> Pippin wrote: 
> I don't think either James or Sirius ever considered what would 
> happen if  Sirius got caught, because Sirius never planned to be 
> taken alive. He says that he would have died rather than betray 
> Peter, and I'm sure both he and James believed that. 

Mandy here: 
If that is true, it's another example of how naive Sirius was.  The 
statement that he would rather die than betray his friends are words 
that come from the mouth of someone who has nothing to loose.  No 
family: no wife, no children, no parents.  It's easy to take that 
stand when the only person who may be threatened by your bravery, is 
the very person you are trying to protect, in Sirius' case James 
Potter.  Given the choice between James Potter and Peter or Remus, 
Sirius would choose James with out thinking twice.  Lupin and I 
believe Peter (except we have no canon to support this yet) had 
families.   If I was being tortured for the where abouts  of my 
friend and my loved ones were threatened; I'd choose my family.

Sirius was the best choice for Secret Keeper because he had nothing 
to loose and was extremely loyal to his friend James.  Anyone could 
see that Peter and Remus were weaker choices simply because they 
would be more likely to break under LV.  For Sirius to refuse this 
job was insane.  Dumbledore would never have approved. I can't 
imagine what Sirius was doing other than surrendering to his fear.


Pippin wrote: 
> Sirius's idea, IMO,  was that he would lead the DE's a merry 
> chase, deliberately draw their fire, and force them to waste time 
> and resources hunting him. 

Mandy here: 
Very romantic and something that might come from Dumbledore but I 
don't believe that was Sirius idea at all.  If he truly believed he 
was a match for LV he would have taken on the job of secret keeper 
and led the DE's on a chase.


> Kneasy wrote: 
> Besides, I don't think Sirius is a real 'goodie' anyway. That's 
> why he had to die. 

Pippin replied: 
> Listen to the Centaurs, Kneasy.  Sirius died because he was 
> *innocent*. The villains die in the last ditch, because there's no 
> story without them. 

Mandy wrote: 
The only crime Sirius was innocent of was the murder of 13 people.  
He died because he was guilty of betraying his best friend and 
responsible for James and Lily's murder.  Sirius knew this.  It's why 
he was so desperately trying to make up to Harry all the time.  It's 
why he resigned in the end.  Guilt hung around Sirius neck like a 
millstone.  

He was one of the good guys for a brief shining moment. Between the 
times he left his family and betrayed James Potter.  Ofcourse he 
didn't mean to betray James but he did.  It is what makes for great 
tragedy.

Mandy 







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