[HPforGrownups] re: WhoToldJames?/Moonrise/InjuredSeeker/MGoshawk/SS&HG's...

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No: HPFGUIDX 51442

In a message dated 2/1/2003 11:03:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
catlady at wicca.net writes:

> People in the latest Prank!thread seem to have made an axiom that 
> canon says that James did not hear about the Prank from Sirius so he 
> must have heard about it from someone else. I think they are going by 
> this Remus statement in PoA: "... but your father, who'd heard what 
> Sirius had done, went after Snape and pulled him back ... "
> 
> To me, that piece of canon does NOT SAY that James didn't hear about 
> it FROM SIRIUS and I continue to believe that he DID hear about it 
> from Sirius.


As i peek out of the shadows of lurkerdom:
I think this is one of the examples of a bit of misleading information that 
will look completely different when we know more (and i hope it's soon!).  
The sentance is worded in a way that does imply that Sirius did not tell 
James... He'd "heard what 
Sirius had done."  However, with a few words from JKR, and it can be turned 
any way you need it: Sirius told james, james had a psychic dream, the map 
told james... 

I'd say that this is a red herring! and I shall pounce on it!


Steve bboy_mn wrote:
> 
> 
> <<he should have had the totals boards, which I believe are out in 
> the hallways in the school common area >>
> 
> Nitpick: PS/SS says they aren't board, they are hourglasses: "At 
> first, Gryffindors passing the giant hourglasses that recorded the 
> house points the next day thought there'd been a mistake. How could 
> they suddenly have a hundred and fifty points fewer than yesterday?" 
> I assume they are hourglasses filled with one bead per point, and 
> lines painted across the hourglass showing the number of points at 
> each multiple of 100, and that the beads are in each House's colors.

Now... how would that work? if it's an actual hourglass, then why are all 
these kids sitting around counting the grains of sand/marbles/whatnot?  I 
mean, it wouldn't be something so obvious that practically any Gryffindor 
walking by would notice that they were short 150.

Personally, when I read it, i thought of this hourglass shaped bilboard we 
had one year in my Junior high school as part of a reading contest.

Maybe the hourglass is enchanted to display the current standing? or the 
scores are posted next to this hourglass?  or maybe it's a thin and wide 
hourglass so the marbles(or whatever they use) are all visible to the viewer.

> 
> Derannimer wrote:
> 
> <<The Sorting Hat does not put the biased in Slytherin; it puts the 
> *ambitious* in Slytherin. Ambition is, canonically, the standard the 
> Hat uses to Sort the Slytherins. >>
> 
> Maybe the Sorting Hat LIES about what criteria it uses to select 
> Slytherins. I personally think that bitter VENGEFULNESS is more of a 
> common trait shared by the Slythies we've met than is ambition.
> 

First off, I nearly died laughing when i read this.  That sounds so much like 
me.  Anyway, maybe this is an illusory correlation?  Maybe it's not that 
vengefulness is something that makes people get into slytherin, but that's 
what they feel.  What happens when you put a whole bunch of ambitious people 
together?  They will all try to be on top.  When you're a slyth on the 
bottom, you want to upset the balance.  If we just had one slyth, in with a 
bunch of Hufflepuffs or something, i think that we'd see a whole lot more of 
the ambition rather than the massive grudge-holding the slytherins partake 
in.

-scheherazade, trying to start posting regularly again


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