SHIP: The Problem with Reading R/H in GOF

Falcon falcon21 at flash.net
Tue Feb 4 23:59:53 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 51617

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Not sure if this will be allowed, but I felt that Stickbook opened the door, and I really, really need to respond to this.

Stickbook wrote:
 First of all, the romantic tension JKR gave us 
a taste of in GoF is wonderfully entertaining, if nothing else.  
Hermione and Ron have a classic Princess Leia/Han Solo dynamic going 
on.  Ron is ready to knock her off her high horse, but Harry would 
just assume leave it alone.  Hermione *needs* to get knocked off, and 
to some degree she knows this--otherwise she probably would have 
stopped cultivating her friendship with H & R three books ago.  Being 
already a master of her studies, it's the only way she can truly come 
of age.

*Comes sliding through the door like Kramer.*

WHOA NELLY!!!!!!!

I'll put up with a lot of things, but having Ron/Hermione compared to Han/Leia is not one of them.

First off, Han and Leia are ADULTS, not teenagers.

Leia was a senator, she trained to fight battles with her tongue. She is capable of tearing an opponent's argument to pieces with little effort. She is a princess, she was raised to be haughty. Once she joined the Rebellion, some of that haughtiness disappeared. It surfaces with Han because she know's he hates it. She has no experience with men romantically. She fights with Han because she likes him and is not sure why or what to do about it.

Han was an orphan. Abused since he was 4 years old he developed a demeanor to keep people at a distance. He was badly burned by a woman when he was 19 years old, and because of that doesn't trust women very much. When he was about 28, he ran into this same woman and she burned him again. His distrust grew by leaps and bounds to the point where he doesn't want to feel anything for another woman. Then he meets Leia and starts to feel something for her. He fights with her because he likes her, and is scared that she will hurt him. He has never, ever betrayed a friend.

Han and Leia's bickering is because he likes her, and doesn't want to. He makes her mad so he can get mad and ignore his feelings for her. She does the same thing. We don't have to wonder about this, because if one knows the characters' history, it's easily understood.

This doesn't even remotely sound like Ron and Hermione to me. 

Ron is the sixth child in a family with seven children. Loved by everyone, never mistreated by his parents. Has jealousy issues, as well as inferiority complex.

Hermione is an only child, obviously raised by loving parents, well adjusted. Very intelligent, and likes to share her knowledge. Is NOT on a high horse with anybody except RON. 

We know that Ron has feelings for Hermione, but her feelings are still questionable at this point.

How is this like Han/Leia? If you look at their backgrounds, you can see why they act the way they do towards each other. Ron/Hermione don't have this.

Falcon





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