[HPforGrownups] Re: SHIP: What did Hermione Know and When did she Know It?

Sarmi princess_tx at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 12 16:51:16 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 52049


 
Jo Serenadust:
Except for the part (in GoF) when she flatly refuses to "skive off Arithmancy" (even though Harry wants her to) in order to help him practice the Summoning Charm.  But no big deal there, right?  The Summoning Charm is his only hope when he risks his life against the dragon the following day, and he's far from having mastered it at this point. Clearly, her interest at Arithmancy trumps Harry's needs at this point.

First off, you are correct that she didn't want to skip a class.  I don't know how long each class is, nor if they had any other class that day.  If they didn't, then they would have had plenty of time to practice the Summoning Charm.  There would be no need to skip one class.

Jo Serenadust:
Also, when Harry needs to practice his Stunning Spell, who 
volunteers to be the target?  Hermione?  Not bloody likely ;--). It's Ron (now who's got loyalty issues?).  In fact, when Hermione criticises Ron for missing the cushions she's so thoughtfully laid out for him to land on after he's been stunned, he suggests that she take a turn since he's "aching all over."  Does she gladly take over?  No, she decides that "Harry's got it now, anyway."  She's obviously not willing to suffer any discomfort for Harry's benefit in this case.


I don't recall any volunteering on anyone's part, if I'm wrong please correct me.  I'm a work at the moment and my books are no where near me.  I've always found this scene amusing because it seems like Hermione is "getting back" at Ron for something, either being mean to her or questioning Harry's loyalty earlier in the year.  Another thing, look at who has helped Harry more throughout the year?  Hermione.  It seemed like it was Ron's turn.

As for suffering discomfort, Hermione has shown she will do such a thing.  Flying Buckbeak.  Hermione's greatest fear is flying or heights.  Anyone who's afraid of either one would flat out refuse to do anything involving one or the other.  But yet Hermione *willingly* climbs onto Buckbeak's back.


Jo Serenadust:
As for wanting to make Ron jealous, I think that it's perfectly clear that Hermione isn't above being manipulative to achieve her goals.  In CoS she scams Lockhart into signing a note for the library by flattering him, playing on his vanity, and lying to him about the book she wants from the Restricted Section.  And at this point in the story, she *really* likes Lockhart.  Since "resorting to jealousy" is just another form of manipulative behaviour, it wouldn't be at all OOC for Hermione to use it to her advantage.  After all, she's a smart girl and it's clearly working ;-).

Whoa!  If I recall correctly, Hermione wasn't the one to do the scamming.  She wanted to get the book, they knew they needed a professor's signature to get into the restricted section.  It was Ron (and Harry?) who offered Lockhart because they knew he wouldn't question it.  Hermione's crush at the time was convient and true.  Wasn't it the boys idea to get Hermione to do such a thing?  Again, if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Sarmi




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