Unforgivables and Aurors (wasRe: Whether or not Fudge is a Death Eater...)
ssk7882 <skelkins@attbi.com>
skelkins at attbi.com
Wed Feb 12 23:54:03 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 52077
Ginger wrote (of Crouch's measures):
> I can see giving the Aurors those powers under the circumstances.
> We had an unfortunate incident in my town a week ago where an
> officer was forced to kill when he was attacked. If Aurors, as
> trained law enforcement officials, are not given this authority,
> the attacking DE has all the advantages. It would be like sending a
> cop to a drug bust with no gun.
There's no reason to believe that the Aurors didn't have the right
to kill in self-defense even before Crouch came along.
This is what Sirius says in "Padfoot Returns," Ch. 27 of GoF:
"The Aurors were given new powers -- powers to kill rather than
capture, for instance."
Note what Sirius is actually saying. He does *not* say that what
Crouch authorized his Aurors to do was to kill in self-defense.
For all we know, they already had that authorization. Recognition
of self-defense as an acceptable legal justification for killing is
very common, after all, even if the burden of proof may vary widely
from culture to culture.
No, what Sirius actually *says* is that the Aurors were given
authorization to kill *rather* than to capture.
This is serious. What it means is that the Aurors were permitted to
kill not only in self-defense, nor even in the immediate defense of
others. They were allowed to kill as an *alternative* to arrest.
In other words, they could kill innocent citizens -- people only
suspected but not yet actually *convicted* of any crime -- without
being held accountable for it.
Note also what Sirius has to say about Moody:
"I'll say this for Moody, though, he never killed if he could
help it. Always brought people in alive where possible."
Indeed, the text gives us an example of the sort of situation in
which it was *not* possible: the combat with Evan Rosier, who chose
to fight rather than to surrender. But for all we know, Rosier's
death at the hands of the Aurors might have been perfectly legal even
before Crouch came into power.
The implication that I see in Sirius' commentary about Moody above is
that there were other Aurors who, unlike Moody, were *not* killing in
self-defense. Nor were they killing only when it was impossible to
apprehend a suspect by other means (Moody himself brought more Death
Eaters to justice than any other Auror, we are told, so clearly
refraining from the AK was really not all that crippling a
disadvantage).
No. They were killing *gratuitously.*
And Crouch's measures were what allowed them to get away with it.
Elkins
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