Unforgivables and Aurors (wasRe: Whether or not Fudge is a Death Eater...)

three_sickles_short <three_sickles_short@hotmail.com> three_sickles_short at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 13 05:20:24 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 52101

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gingersnape1966 
<gingersnape1966 at y...>" <gingersnape1966 at y...> wrote:
> Finwitch asked: (much previous snipped) 
> > And with Barty Crouch Sr. authorising Aurors to use 
Unforgivables? 
> > Unforgivable should mean just that, Auror or not. (Really, you do 
> not 
> > need AK-curse to kill someone, torturing is totally unnecessary 
and 
> I 
> > don't think Imperius will ever be needed either).
> > 
> Me:  I can see giving the Aurors those powers under the 
> circumstances.  We had an unfortunate incident in my town a week 
ago 
> where an officer was forced to kill when he was attacked.  If 
Aurors, 
> as trained law enforcement officials, are not given this authority, 
> the attacking DE has all the advantages.  It would be like sending 
a 
> cop to a drug bust with no gun.

Yeah, I can see the necessity for letting Aurors use AK in some 
situations.  As Finwitch notes, you can kill without AK, but, so far 
as we know, AK is the only *unblockable* curse that we know of.  If 
you're an Auror, and the Death Eater that you're trying to fight is 
an expert blocker, AK may be your only route.

And yet, and yet.  My inner Distruster of Official Channels of 
Authority still cringes at the possibilities for abuse.  If all the 
Aurors were like Moody, who always tried to capture instead of 
killing, then I'd have no problem with the fact that Aurors are 
allowed to use AK.  But all the Aurors aren't like Moody, so I worry.


> I agree that the cruciatus is unnecessary, but the imperius could 
> come in very handy, and be useful in avoiding using the AK, 
assuming 
> the DE can't shake it off. ("I said, <imperius> 'come along 
quitely, 
> Mr Death Eater'").

(snip)

Handy, yeah, but still awfully open to abuse.  It seems like "I said, 
<Stupefy!  Mobilicorpus!> 'come along quietly, Mr. Death Eater'" 
would be just as effective, and a lot less inclined to start one down 
any slippery slopes.

TSS






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