[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and Hagrid

[srsiriusblack at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 52307

Hello pretty_feet51 at yahoo.com,

In reference to your comment:

è About Hagrid and Snape's relationship.  I think you are
è right in a  sense that Hagrid trusts Snape because
è Dumbledore trusts him.  I also  think that in many
è ways, Hagrid and Snape are similiar, and Hagrid  sees
è that.  They're both people who most of society would
è have  shunned and carted off to Azkaban.  Yet
è Dumbledore gave both of them  a second chance.

Precisely. In PS, when the trio claim Snape is trying to kill Harry, to steal 
the stone, to be a big baddie, Hagrid defends him time and again. Hagrid 
knows what the children do not; I am sure of it. I think that Hagrid knows 
more than we do about Snape and his past. Hagrid was either already 'Keeper 
of Keys and Grounds' or still apprentice to Ogg when Snape was a student. 
Hagrid has been by Dumbledore's side throughout the events will Lord V, so he 
has seen much of what Dumbledore has seen. Thusly, and coupled with the 
protection and second chances Dumbledore has offered Hagrid, Hagrid would be 
connected on many levels to Snape. 

I have been thinking a great deal, whilst lurking as of late on the 
discussions of Snape and his treatment of Harry and the other students. 
Whereas, there are many times I feel he goes out of his way to be putridly 
nasty to those not in his house, I have come to quite fancy the reasons 
behind his treatment of Harry. At first, when i read posts on how Harry was 
being ill treated by 
Snape I disagreed with the small lot of you who think that there is good 
reason behind it. Yet, after taking a break from most of the discussions and 
re-reading all four books- because I am a nerd- I have to say I find a lot of 
that arguement to be right. 

Harry does take liberty that shouldn't be his. Regardless of Snape's history 
with James or perhaps because of it, he feels Harry needs to learn the 
lessons of staying within the rules and limitation of the situation.... which 
brings me to this--
We know Snape didn't like James and Company, but maybe there is more to why 
he treats Harry as he does. Perhaps some of the lax rules and mischief we 
know James loved brought about his downfall, and despite disdain for James, 
Snape doesn't want to see Harry end up with the same result....

Just some thoughts.
-Snuffles
"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty 
recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the 
dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with 
open eyes, to make it possible. This I did."  T.E. Lawrence- Seven Pillars of 
Wisdom


========Original Message======== 
Subj:   [HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and Hagrid    
Date:   2/15/2003 1:38:54 AM Eastern Standard Time  
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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rctower_lv <roger.tower at w...>" 
<roger.tower at w...> wrote:
> I think it was Ron who said that about Slytherin, not Hagrid.
> 
> Hagrid trusts Snape because Dumbledore does, simple as that.
> 
> Roger

First of all, in the movie Ron said that.  In the books, it was 
Hagrid.

About Hagrid and Snape's relationship.  I think you are right in a 
sense that Hagrid trusts Snape because Dumbledore trusts him.  I also 
think that in many ways, Hagrid and Snape are similiar, and Hagrid 
sees that.  They're both people who most of society would have 
shunned and carted off to Azkaban.  Yet Dumbledore gave both of them 
a second chance.

~Risti


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