Austen, R/H and H/G (was RE: Cho; It's time to defend Ginny! (some SHIP)

[Lilac]

No: HPFGUIDX 52403


Shauna said:

Not to be nitpicky, but there are some serious flaws with this 
analogy.  (of Harry/Ginny to P&P)

1) Darcy is explicitly contemptuous to Elizabeth in particular, 
calling her unattractive.  Harry isn't *contemptuous* of Ginny, he 
just prefers not to think about her.  Furthermore, how can Harry 
and Darcy even be compared, when Darcy's main fault is pride, 
something Harry completely lacks?

2) Ginny as Elizabeth - Elizabeth spent most of the book actively 
disliking Darcy, and making no secret of it.  When Darcy 
proposed to her, she was the one who turned *him* down.  It's 
only at the end that she realizes she loves him - and after their 
relationship has progressed to a far deeper stage than Harry 
and Ginny's is currently at.

3)  Elizabeth's main reason for disliking Darcy was the harm he 
had done to her sister.  So according to your analogy, Ginny 
should be currently hating Harry for something Harry did to one 
of her brothers.

I honestly don't see the analogy at all.  Sorry.

Me:

I've heard some people compare Darcy and Elizabeth to R/H because of the tension and what R/H's call witty banter (others call hurtful bickering) or D/H because of the pride and prejudice of Darcy/Draco (although I personally don't see D/H happening, imo, but I could be wrong...).

Others have compared _Emma_ to H/G, with Harry being like Emma (i.e. clueless), and Ginny being Mr. Knightly in these ways:

1. Emma and Knightly are related by marriage, so you never even consider Knightly as a possible love interest.  Harry is almost related to Ginny in that she is his best friend's little sister.

2. Emma and Knightly have a big age difference...He is 16 years older, IIRC.  Another reason to not consider Knightly.  JKR has made Ginny seem young for her age, which makes us really not consider her with Harry as many feel she is too young, when in fact she is only a year younger chronologically (it could possibly be less, depending on her birthday).

3. JKR has said in this interview:  http://www.readersdigest.co.uk/magazine/Rowling3.htm

 "I love a good whodunnit and my passion is plot construction. Readers loved to be tricked, but not conned," Rowling says, warming to her theme. ***"The best twist ever in literature is in Jane Austen's Emma. To me she is the target of perfection at which we shoot in vain."***

Now, this twist could be an argument for H/H, as their ship does have more subtextual evidence at this point in time.  But I like to believe that JKR is going to pull a "Darcy" with R/H and a "Knightly" with H/G. 

But then, that's just my silly little opinion. <g>


There are more ways in which H/G relates to _Emma_, but I can't find the specific thread over at FAP or SQ at this point in time.  Maybe there are others who are more familiar with the comparisons (and who will do a better job explaining them) that could help me out here.

~Lilac~



 

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