[HPforGrownups] (More on) Draco's path; Junior Death Eaters; Draco vs. Ron

[Susanne]

No: HPFGUIDX 52625



Hi,

Thursday, February 20, 2003, 4:42:02 PM, gwendolyngrace wrote:

> Ron likes Hagrid initially (largely on Harry's 
> recommendation), but cools to him when he learns of his giant 
> heritage.

Really? I never had the impression that Ron's feelings or
behavior changed after finding out he is a half-giant.

Here's the part in GoF where Ron and Harry find out:
**************
"Who cares?" Harry said. "There's nothing wrong with Hagrid!"

    "I know there isn't, but. . . blimey, no wonder he keeps
it quiet," Ron said, shaking his head. "I always thought he'd
got in the way of a bad Engorgement Charm when he was a kid or
something. Didn't like to mention it. ..."

    "But what's it matter if his mother was a giantess?" said Harry.

    "Well... no one who knows him will care, 'cos they'll know he's
not dangerous," said Ron slowly. "But. . . Harry, they're just
vicious, giants. It's like Hagrid said, it's in their natures,
they're like trolls . . . they just like killing, everyone knows
that.
****************

The next time they see Hagrid I see no sign of Ron acting
any cooler toward Hagrid at all.
Can you point out what makes you think he is?

>  Draco dislikes Lupin immediately because his robes are 
> shabby and patched; Ron is impressed with Lupin because of the 
> incident on the train, but later shrinks back from him upon being 
> told he is a werewolf.

Under the circumstances that's no suprise.
They think Lupin has betrayed them.

After they find out the truth, her doesn't shrink back from
Lupin anymore.

>From POA:
***************
 He [Lupin] hurried over to Ron, bent down, tapped Ron's leg with his
wand, and muttered, "Ferula." Bandages spun up Ron's leg, strapping
it tightly to a splint. Lupin helped him to his feet; Ron put his
weight gingerly on the leg and didn't wince.

    "That's better," he said. "Thanks."

*****************

>  Ron makes his choices based upon what he has been
> taught or absorbed about those who are "dangerous" as a class--
> despite his initial reaction to those same individuals.

I can't agree with this at all.

He readily changes his opinion when what he has been told
doesn't match reality.

>  

>  He is cruel; he does ignore Hermione completely and assume
> she will be available for him when he needs her.

I'm not sure what you mean here.
Is this about not asking Hermione about the ball right away?

I don't think he assumed anything until right when he
realized Hermione "is a girl".

He's terribly insensitive, but I don't believe he's
deliberately cruel or has expected Hermione to wait around
just for him, while he asked every other girl first.

I honestly think that Ron never considered Hermione as
a possible date, and not because he thinks her unattractive.

That makes him immature and insensitive, but not cruel
(imo).

>  And she's completely 
> justified to be very upset with him.

Yes, she is.

>  But his lashing out is as much 
> because he is hurt. Is it reasonable for him to be hurt? No. Still, 
> it happens. 

Not sure what you are referring to here.

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 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net