TBAY: Washing dishes and powders - SUNLIGHT ULTRA

[Hollydaze]

No: HPFGUIDX 52796

"Snape brings Lupin the potion, and Lupin shows Snape the 
map, complete with two sets of Harry and Hermione.  They start to 
discuss various plan options from what has been thought of throughout 
the year, while Lupin is drinking his potion in the time of 
Buckbeak's appeal.  They finally set out a plan.  Lupin follows the 
trio when Sirius shows up, scopes out the situation, and fills Harry 
in on any background details he may not know.  Then Snape comes in 
and plays bad cop, to show Harry how stupid it can be to take a 
desire for revenge too far.  Then Snape slips to the background, 
where he will be ready to step in if the danger ever becomes too 
much. While he's there for backup, Lupin threatens Sirius's life.  
Here they have two options.  If Harry doesn't step in and stop him, 
Lupin will kill Sirius....."

Risti was interrupted by a tap at the window and everyone turned to look at the figure that had suddenly appeared on the other side of the wall, covered in snowflakes. The figure smiled and then jabbed at the window which appeared to be slightly open.

"Umm... any chance you could... uh open this a bit more?" asked a nervous and slightly muffled voice.

Melody rushed over to open the window a bit further, wondering exactly when it had been opened and why they hadn't noticed the draught it was causing.

"Ah, hmm, excuse me butting in an all, but I've kinda been.. umm, well... eavesdropping," the person explained as her eyes dropped to avoid the glances she was being given, "and I think the theory, so far, is really interesting but was just wondering something..."

"Oh, what's puzzling you?" asked Risti in a friendly tone of voice.

The stranger looked up again and continued, "well is this bit similar to MD? In that Snape wasn't supposed to be knocked out, he was supposed to pretend, or did you have something else in mind for him to uhh... slip into the background? Cos Tom put forward that the KO is just a side effect of expelliarmus, which can be seen when you look when Lupin casts it as he first arrives in the SS and HRH aren't thrown anywhere, just as well for Ron's broken leg really. Even if three expelliarmus spells would normally do that, and I beleive they would, he couldn't have relied on all three of them casting that spell together either."

"Oh don't worry we'll get to that bit later," answered Risti and continued. "Now where was I? Oh yes, if Harry doesn't step in and stop Lupin, he will kill Sirius as payment for all he's done.  I believe that Lupin had a desire to kill the man who had betrayed the trust of friendship, and killed his best friend.  If Harry saves Sirius, then the plan is to bring Sirius back to the castle, chained to Lupin. When Lupin transforms, they know Sirius will transform as well.  Lupin will use his form to chase Sirius far enough away from the castle that he can escape.  Snape will wake up at this point and bring the trio safely into the castle."

"And where is Pettigrew in this brilliantly thought out plan?" Pip 
asked, now learning forward as if to pounce.

"Ahh, but even the most brilliantly laid plans must sometimes be laid 
aside.  When Lupin and Snape spotted Pettigrew on the map along with 
Sirius, they knew that something wasn't right.  They didn't have time 
to come up with too many other plans, however, and decided that 
they'd probably have to wing it off of the plan that they'd already 
come up with.  So Lupin ran to follow the trio, along with Sirius 
Black, into the Shrieking Shack."

The girl at the window, shifted so she was leaning on the windowsill more comfortably and then spoke again, "umm sorry but I've got another question... wouldn't they have spotted Pettigrew before Sirius? He was in the hut with Ron, Hagrid and the first set of Harry and Hermione. So surely, when connected with the two sets of HH on the map, that would also have helped alert Lupin to the fact that something was going on. So surely ANY plan from that point would have to take Peter into account wouldn't it and they wouldn't have made the plan you just explained cos they'd have know about Peter for as long, if not longer, than they knew about Sirius? In fact, surely he'd have already seen Peter in Hagrid's hut as he'd been there for quite some time? If not right from when he faked his death for the second time. Although I suppose you could argue that Lupin's attention was only drawn to Peter because HRH were there bu that still means Lupin and Snape would have know about Peter before Sirius appeared on the scene so the 'sirius only' plan would never have been conceived."

"Ahh I see what you mean... um what's your name?" asked Risti.

"I'm Hollydaze," came the reply. 

Suddenly Shauna piped up, "well, Hollydaze, speaking for myself, I believe that Snape and Lupin had more than just twenty minutes or so to re-adjust their plans - perhaps as many as a few weeks. "

"But you said earlier that Lupin and Snape were able to make the plan because Lupin had spotted two lots of Harry and Hermione on the map so knew that something was going to happen, they formulated their plan then and there (after Lupin summoned Snape/Snape turned up with potion), so therefore they couldn't have had a few weeks to change their plan could they? Even if they did know about Peter and Sirius before that night cos they wouldn't have know about the SS or the two HH's on the grounds. Or am I miss understanding you? Don't worry now though, I'd like to hear the rest of the theory, maybe that will make things clearer."

Then Melody asked, "wouldn't a Mr. Calm and Cool agent Lupin be ready for this? This is what he is trained and ready to do. He should have entered calmly but decidedly to bring the situation to a calm hand. He busted into the room with sparks flying. Seems he is a bit too excited or a bit too afraid."

"Except that until Lupin gets into the Shrieking Shack, events are 
being played out by themselves," interjected Shauna quickly, "No 
agents, just a traitor, a possibly deranged person, and three kids. 
Also, when Lupin leaves the Map for Snape, he's without it for 
several minutes. He doesn't know what's going on. He's *worried*. 
Once he gets inside, sees that Sirius is apparently sane, and that 
Peter has not yet transformed, he's able to go back to his calm, 
collected self."

Pip stirred her tea quietly and spoke up, "My problem is that Sirius 
innocence is NOT obvious just because Peter survived. Not for a 
spymaster."

"You're right, Pip," Grey Wolf nodded. "Lupin should have been more 
careful."

"He has much evidence against Black," Melody chimed in. "But he goes 
in and hugs him."

"But Lupin doesn't just go in and hug Black," said Risti, getting 
back on track.  "After assessing the room, and crying Expelliarmus 
(which, incidentally, would have reminded Harry of that spell as a 
possibility for upcoming events), he asks Sirius `Where is he?"(pg 
252, softcover).  He's testing Sirius to see if he even knows about 
Pettigrew, which Sirius shows that he does.  Then Lupin thinks for a 
moment, partially out loud for our benefit, and finally reaches the 
conclusion that they switched Secret Keepers."

"A good spy wouldn't just be able to make the decision that Sirius is 
innocent because Pettigrew is still alive," said Grey Wolf.

"No, but a good friend, who has always wanted to believe despite the 
odds that his close friend wasn't really an evil turncoat would take 
this bit of evidence the way that we take a piece of canon that 
suddenly allows for our entire pet theory to work.  Proof of what 
we've always known, deep inside.  From here, as I said earlier, Snape 
and Lupin play good cop, bad cop to show Harry the friendship between 
Lupin, Pettigrew, Sirius, and James, and just what can happen when 
you let a desire for revenge take over your life.  Incidentally, 
that's one of the key themes in PoA, infact-"

Grey Wolf cleared his throat, and Risti realized where here rambling 
was leading her.

"Oh, right.  Meta-thinking.  Sorry.  Couldn't help it you know.  So 
Snape fakes being knocked out, and continues to keep an ear out to be 
ready to pounce if needed, and Lupin adjusts the plan from Sirius to 
Pettigrew.  Again, he has two possible options.  Hopefully, Harry 
steps in and creates the life debt, but if not, or if Sirius refuses 
to listen to Harry, then at least they have gotten rid of a servant 
of Voldemort, and the person who caused James and Lily to be killed.  
Then, it is time for the escape.  Lupin can't really deny Ron's 
request to be chained to Pettigrew, and he knows that once he 
transforms, he won't be a danger to Ron.  The plan doesn't really 
need much altering at this point.  This time, when Lupin transforms, 
both Sirius and Pettigrew need to escape.  It almost works, but Lupin 
forgot about one thing.  Sirius wouldn't know that Lupin wasn't 
dangerous, and, being innocent, would want to protect Harry rather 
then run for his freedom.  Then those Dementors come into the 
picture."

"So why doesn't Agent Snape intervene at this point?  Isn't that what 
he's there for, back up?" asked Melody.

"We know that the power of Dementors is dependent on just how bad 
your worst memories are.  How much power do you think they'd have 
over Snape?"

"Oh," said Melody softly, "good point."

"Ahh, now that makes sense, but couldn't it work just as well if you read that bit the way it is in the book: that he really was knocked out by accident? He just happened to come round at the right time to help everyone back up to the school, or do you see that as too much of a coincidence? Although that still doesn't answer how Snape would have been relying on that spell to throw him into the wall, as like I said before, it doesn't when Lupin casts it earlier on in the scene."

"As you said it's too much of a coincidence, besides, Lupin has trained Harry for just this moment.  He knows that Harry knows how to fight a dementor, and he knows that at this point, there are probably *two* Harry's running around, one of whom is probably there to fix up the messes that were left behind.  Snape does step in as soon as he is able, and brings the trio safely back to Dumbledore."

"Well actually, sorry to interrupt again, he knows that the second Harry must fix things, or that someone must fix things anyway, at least if he is thinking straight, cos otherwise how could there be two Harry's in the first place? If the first one got his soul sucked, he could never go back to save the himself. Obviously this presumes that Snape and Lupin know about the time turner, surely Dumbledore would have told his agents about something like that, or did I miss a bit? You can answer that in a minute as well if you want."

With that, Risti closed her notebook.

"That's it?" Pip exclaimed, "You just end your theory there?"

"We end our variance there.  After that, MD stands perfectly well on 
it's own," Risti said, finishing off her second cup of tea which was 
now only lukewarm.

"Do you at least have a name for it?" Grey Wolf asked incredulously.

"Oh yes, nearly forgot about that one," Risti said, looking down at 
the front of her notebook.  "You see, while PERSIL AUTOMATIC just 
doesn't work with a MAGIC DISHWASHER, we think we've created 
something that does."  Risti got up, and put her empty teacup into 
the MAGIC DISHWASHER, pulled a box of detergent out of her robes, put 
some in the dishwasher, and started it.  A quiet hum indicated that 
it was running smoothly.  With that, she showed the front of the box 
to the room.

"SUNLIGHT ULTRA: Snape Undercover Needs Lupin In Getting Harry To 
Give Lifedebt To Restrict Adversary," she read out loud for 
them.  "All the MAGIC DISHWASHER needed to run smoothly was the right 
detergent. I'll answer your questions now if you want Hollydaze."

"Thanks but.. um... is there any chance I can come inside first cos it's getting rather cold out here in the snow?" she asked and she shivered just to emphasis the point.

HOLLYDAZE!!!
Who:
1) Is reading most of the replies to MD, DL and SU but may have missed a few as she's ciphered most of them off to read separate to all the other arguments 

and 

2) Has never written anything TBAY before and has been waiting for a chance for ages so apologies if this is no good.




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