[HPforGrownups] Significance of names...... again.
GulPlum
hp at plum.cream.org
Wed Feb 26 19:23:58 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 52886
megalynn44 wrote:
>Ok so this brought up some questions. Have these characters [Parvati &
>Nagini] turned up in other cultures or are they strictly Hindu?
Yes, they're strictly Hindi deities, but considering most Oriental
religions have some common ancestry, there are probably parallels
throughout. AFAIK the names themselves have no significance outside Hinduism.
>How many cultures, religions, and mythes has JKR used to create names and
>creatures in the WW?
We'll probably never know. :-) Roman, Greek and Celtic mythologies are up
there, as are Wicca, Christianity and just about every major belief system
there is (and some minor ones).
>Is she trying to make a point by drawing from every culture (or as many as
>she can) to create the WW?
My view is that the (British) WW more or less mirrors the mix of real
British society. Therefore the mixtures of names and cultural traditions
will be mirrored as well. Of course, JKR isn't writing a sociological
treatise with some kind of statistical representation of all segments of
our society, so the mirror is a little distorted. But the flavour is
certainly there.
I'm sure that wizarding society in other countries reflects the real world
society around them, but as JKR's story happens to take place on this
island, I doubt we'll see much of those other societies. We've had a small
flavour of this with the mentions of Middle Eastern countries preferring
flying carpets to broomsticks - they have their traditions, we have ours.
Living in cosmopolitan cities as JKR has done at various stages in her life
(although interestingly she was brought up in a very "white" part of
England) it's impossible to ignore elements of other cultures (including
their religions and deities). Whilst (say) Americans may encounter Hindu
symbolism for the first time in the Potter books, I for instance take it
for granted as I see it every day of the week. Some of us will be less
conversant than others with some of the details of our neighbours' belief
systems, but it really is difficult to escape, especially if like JKR, one
keeps one's eyes open.
>Does this signify that the WW is everywhere (spread out through the entire
>world and it's entire history) yet still so well connected it resembles a
>tight nit
>community?
As I see it, absolutely. The WW might be seen as a parallel society to
ours: wizards have things in common with each other which they don't with
us Muggles (namely a reliance on magic rather than technology) but at the
same time, wizards in a particular geographic location have cultural ties
with the local Muggle communities in order not too stick out *too* much.
I'm sure that the Middle-Eastern equivalent of Hogwarts isn't a Medieval
castle next to a lake, but a squat white building in the somewhere in order
not to look out of place in its surroundings.
Similarly, different magical traditions and (real-world) lore is connected
with some geographical areas more than others. For instance, we have
elements of voodooistic "transference magic", northern European
plant/potions-based magic, middle eastern cabalistic/incantation-based
stuff and other kinds, such as use of wands (which AFAIK comes from the Far
East) and magical implements and tools (Time Turners, Put Outers, etc)
which are another tradition entirely, and perhaps more a reflection of our
technological age.
All in all, it's a very interesting and eclectic mix.
>There is a growing school of thought that no one religion is more
>significant. That they are all interconnected. Does this maybe translate
>to wizarding culture?
Absolutely. There is no mention of religion or gods of any kind throughout
the books, except for an all-pervading belief in what is good and bad. The
wizarding community accepts the definite existence of an after-life though,
which is perhaps interesting in the absence of any god-head.
>I'm not sure if I am wording these properly, but I will rewword if the
>responses aren't what i was looking for.
Well, I'm not sure if I understood your questions correctly either, but
I've done my best to answer how I feel the questions I saw should be answered.
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GulPlum AKA Richard, who REALLY should be giving the HPFGU world a break
this evening...
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