Crouch!Moody. When did Dumbledore know?

[gingersnape1966 <gingersnape1966@yahoo.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 49515

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pickle_jimmy <kemp at a...>" 
<kemp at a...> wrote:
> In the whole "[Dumbledore] doesn't miss a trick" arena, when does 
> Dumbledore suspect that Moody isn't Moody?
> 
me:  I wondered how Moody could have fooled Dumbledore.  In GoF (ch. 
35) when Harry was rescued from the fake Moody, Dumbledore told 
Harry "The real Moody would not have removed you from my sight after 
what happened tonight.  The moment he took you, I knew-and I 
followed."  Depending on how much emphasis Dumbledore put on the 
word "knew", it would either mean he had suspected for a while or 
that it hit him from out of the blue.  Personally, I think he was 
suspicious.  It would tie in with Pickle Jimmy's observation:

 
> And, did Dumbledore - knowing fake!moody was a dark wizard - 
> trick/manipulate him into passing on his knowledge of the 
> unforgivable curses (under the safety of hogwarts) to aid the 
> students - especially Harry - in the future events. eg The Rise and 
> Fall of Future!Voldemort
> 
me:  I wondered why such a loyal Dark wizard would teach Harry to 
throw off the Imperius Curse!  That would explain it!  Moody did say 
that the MoM didn't want him showing students what the Unforgivable 
curses looked like until their 6th year, but "Dumbledore's got a 
higher opinion of your nerves, he recons you can cope."  This would 
imply that Dumbledore had a hand in it, either bacause he suspected 
Moody, or because he knew (he had been "reading the signs") that 
Harry would need these things sooner than his 6th year.

Best regards, Ginger