JKR's marriage (some SHIP)

[Penny Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 50340

Hi --

cmsore wrote:

<<<<I find it unlikely that JKR would write a sympathetic view 
of a character that is supposed to be like her ex-husband, and I 
think she is writing Ron as a sympathetic even positive character.>>>>

I don't think she is modeling Ron on her ex-husband, and I agree that Ron is intended to be a positive character (whether *I* view him that way or not).  But, the relationship between Ron and Hermione may bear some similarities to her first marriage, and if so, it might not bode well for long-term R/H.  It would depend on whether she thinks *some* tempestuous relationships can be affirming and positive for both parties, and we don't know what she thinks at this point.

<<<<I guess I can see any relationship degenerating into a screaming and 
negative relationship like the one Penny says was documented by third 
party observers in the biography.>>>>  

I think that's a stretch.  Fact is, the vast majority of healthy relationships do not degenerate into abusive situations.  

Pippin:"Whatever. As long as she isn't too traumatized to write about  them. But as Ron and Hermione already have a tempestuous relationship marked by bickering and rows, that hardly seems to  be the case. <veg>"

Jim responded with: <<<The point, course, is that JKR is not likely to be viewing these 
tempestuous relationships in a favorable light, given that her own experience with them was bad.  To bring it down to canon, JKR has her alter ego on the edge of the same kind of relationship that JKR had to get out of.>>>>>>

Yes, exactly.  I don't think it much matters to the R/H shippers whether she just writes about tempestuous relationships (she's already doing that, as you point out) -- it matters whether she's going to validate & affirm that relationship by having it continue and succeed in a romantic sense.  And, if she's had a negative experience on that front and especially if her current presumably-happy marriage is not of the bickering/tempestuous model, then it could well be that she *won't* affirm it by having her alter-ego enter into such a state of affairs.  

Pippin earlier argued:

<<<<<But you've got it just backward!  R/H er's don't see the passion created by rows, at least *I* don't.  I see the rows as created by passion. Once Ron and Hermione have matured 
enough to express their true feelings, (if ever they do--I expect that will take time), they won't need to hide them behind this  mask of conflict.>>>>>>>

Are you trying to suggest that they've been secretly attracted to each other from the moment they met at age 11?  Because that's how long they've been at each other you know.  

Penny




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