What will come in book 5

Kathy <pkdailey@comcast.net> pkdailey at comcast.net
Thu Jan 23 21:50:04 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50418

> kewiromeo at a... wrote:
> "As well, I think that Harry's fan will be Mr.
> Diggory. "
> 
> Kathryn:  As I said in a post, maybe even
> yesterday...why would Mr. Diggory's death be hard to
> write, we've seen him what? 3 times in the entire
> series (The Weasley's fire place, the Quidditch World
> Cup, and after Cedric's death).  He is so much less
> significant to the plot than Cedric was.  Since JKR
> specifically said that this book would have a hard to
> write death, I assume that it must be someone more
> significant to the plot than Cedric was.

I think that the "death that will be hard to write" is going to be 
Lupin.  I say this because JKR has admitted in her interview with 
scholastic that Lupin is one of her favorite characters.  Perhaps 
Lupin fights Voldemort and loses.  Lupin's death would be very hard 
to write, given that he is such a good guy.  He is also very close 
to Harry, and someone that Harry greatly admires.  Think of the plot 
consequences! I also think that there are more deaths than one.  JKR 
said as much, didn't she?

> kewiromeo at a... wrote:
> Or better yet, he will end up in the future. Hermione
> and Ron with him. I think that Ron is going to have to
> find someone else. Hermione should be with Harry, and
> if not, Harry and Cho will have something going on and
> she will die. 
>
Again, this is just my opinion
 Although I know that some people 
have very strong feelings about the SHIP dilemmas and I respect 
their opinions, I also have some opinions of my own.  JKR has set a 
very strong foundation for a Harry/Ginny relationship and a Ron 
Hermione relationship.  I say this for several reasons.  

Ginny has a very strong crush on Harry from book one to book four 
(although it peaked in book two).  To her, Harry is a hero
 the 
slayer of Lord Voldemort, her savior in the CoS, all-star athlete 
and all around good guy.  Even though her "silly crush" seems to be 
behind her in GoF, JKR still leaves small clues that she is still 
day-dreaming about Harry but that she is moving on.  After all, 
Harry sees Ginny as Ron's little sister.  But I've read somewhere 
that JKR has said that Ginny will begin to play more of a part in 
future stories.  Perhaps Ginny will join the Quidditch team.  After 
all, she does have 6 older brothers, most of who all seem to be good 
Quidditch players.  And isn't Cho's ability on the Quidditch team 
(coupled with her good looks) the root of Harry's attraction to 
her?  It's not like he knows her as a person
  I think that Harry's 
crush on Cho is just that—a crush.  There is no substance in this 
relationship and certainly nothing that would lead me to believe 
that anything will ever come of it.  I think he is just showing 
normal pre-teen/teenage feelings and Cho is a devise used by JKR to 
show the facets of his character.  He may be brave when it comes to 
Voldemort, but he's still just a boy entering into the unfamiliar 
territory of girls.  

Hermione and Harry are not attracted to one another.  Teenage 
romance is characterized by awkwardness and embarrassment.  Hermione 
kisses Harry on the cheek (a very common practice in Europe) without 
any signs of awkwardness or embarrassment.  This leads me to believe 
that Hermione views Harry as a brother or close friend.  With Ron, 
on the other hand, we see an entirely different dynamic.  They have 
always had a love/hate relationship.  There are definite signs of 
jealousy on the part of both Ron and Hermione in GoF, and they have 
an awkwardness with each other while still maintaining the sense 
that they care deeply for each other.  I think JKR is setting the 
stage for a relationship here.  Why else would she even bother 
including these scenes in GoF?  Also keep in mind that both Harry 
and Hermione denied having feelings for each other after being 
accused of a relationship by Rita Skeeter.  

Another reason I think that Ginny and Harry will end up together has 
its roots in history.  They are linked though their history with Tom 
Riddle and the CoS.  Harry wants more than anything to be part of a 
family because he never had much of a family of his own (who counts 
the Dursleys?).  In a sense, Ginny's family is already Harry's 
family.  He is an honorary Weasly already, and linking Harry and 
Ginny would give Harry a sense of belonging and family that he has 
always wanted.  Would he have that with Hermione?  No, not to the 
same extent or with the same significance that he would have with 
Ginny.  Linking Harry with Ginny and Ron with Hermione would, in a 
way, make them brothers and all of them family.  I just think that 
from a literary perspective, this makes the best sense.  That's just 
my opinion

            
> Kathryn: 
 
>If Harry was such a powerful wizard, why
> did it take him so long to learn the patronus charm? 
> And how come he can't see anything in the crystal
> ball? He has shown that he is not AMAZING at his
> practical exams, so I don't see evidence that he has
> some sort of stronger magical power or ability than
> others.
> 
 
I agree with Tzvi that Harry has shown to be a powerful/great 
wizard.  He can see the future via dreams (not crystal balls) and 
has a way of using what he knows most effectively in tight 
situations.  He doesn't lose his cool when in peril and knows when 
to seek help from others (like H/R).  

Voldemort obviously knows that there is more to Harry than meets the 
eye.  After all, why was he trying to kill him as an infant?  In 
SS/PS when Harry was in the Hospital Wing talking to Dumbledore he 
asks him a question.  "Voldemort said that he only killed my mother 
because she tried to stop him from killing me.  But why would he 
want to kill me in the first place?"  Dumbledore does not answer his 
question, putting him off by saying, "Alas, the first thing you ask 
me, I cannot tell you.  Not today. Not now

. When you are older

 
when you are ready, you will know."  IMO I think that Lilly and 
James were hiding to protect Harry from Voldemort.  Perhaps 
Voldemort found out somehow that Harry would be his downfall 
(divination???).  If Lilly and James knew that Voldemort was after 
their son, of course they would hide from him.  Hopefully this is 
the "everything" that Dumbledore wants to tell Harry in book 5.  
Until then, I'm still wondering
 Why did Voldemort want to kill 
Harry? 

Kathy, finished lurking








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