Flesh of Servant, Hand of Silver (through MDDT eyes)

Melody <Malady579@hotmail.com> Malady579 at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 25 18:13:14 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50604

Elkins wrote:
>Cindy got all excited about the Gleam again, and in what seemed to be
>an attempt to lure the MDDT out of retirement <g>,

Alright.  Seeming that we have been summoned to appear by Cindy *and*
Elkins now, let me put away this fishing rod.  Our retirement is
almost over anyway now that a certain member will be waking up from
his hibernation soon, and he *always* manages to stir things up.  :)


Cindy quoted Eric Oppen, who once wrote:
> > Could one of the side-effects of "flesh of the servant,
> > willingly(?) given" in the ritual to re-body-ize Voldemort
> > be to give _Wormtail_ some sort of power over Voldemort?
>
> > Think about it...part of Wormtail is now a big component in
> > Voldemort's new body. We've already seen that the magical "law
> > of similarity" applies in the Wizard World, what with HP's and
> > V's wands being unable to fight each other because they each
> > contain a feather from the tail of the same phoenix. Might this
> > not apply even more strongly between V-mort and W-tail?

So really, is it the fact they share the same flesh that could cause
this anomaly?  Interesting.  Could that not also apply to Harry?
Blood is, after all, considered to be more sacred and personal.  One
does not carry around a vial/box of another person's flesh but of
their blood.  Though back in the day, mourning jewelry was braided out
of the loved one's hair, but that is a bit digressive.

If sharing the exactly same flesh is a true problem, then I would
think sharing the same blood is too.  So if that is the case, then if
Wormtail ever rejoined the side of "good", then he can unite with
Harry and be invincible against Voldemort.  Unless Voldemort commands
one of his death eaters (wink to Gail) to kill Wormtail and Harry.

You know - that is what happened in the movie Demolition Man.  The
main bad guy programmed other bad guy Wesley Snipe to not be able to
kill him.  So what did Snipes do?  He told someone else to do it, and
the main bad guy fell flat.  Now that is a good evil overlord at work.


Elkins put her twist into it:
> But if I were Voldemort, I'd be even more worried about that *hand.*
>
> In fact, it seems to me to be formed out of that Special Silvery
> wizarding Soul Stuff (tm).  You know, the stuff that's in
> Dumbledore's Pensieve?  The stuff that forms the sigil that
> Dumbledore shoots into the air to summon Hagrid in GoF?  The stuff
> that actually forms ones *patronus?*

Good point.  That silver stuff is not very common on the books, and
seems to symbolize something ethereal and pure desire in the person
whether good or bad.  Also if it was pure silver, then how could he
use it?  I have visions of Terminator Two, and that one terminator
that could shift shape like molten metal.  I always envisioned Peter's
hand like that.


Elkins:
> Now, I'm not altogether sure what that stuff is.  But I don't think
> that it's exactly *impersonal* stuff, if you know what I mean.  It
> seems to me that whenever we see the silvery stuff show up, it's
> always in relation to something rather spiritual, something deeply
> intrinsic to the wizard himself.

Oh I see what you are getting at.  Voldemort has put himself, via
Elkins' trademarked Special Silvery Wizarding Soul Stuff, into Peter
too.  Oh interesting twist there.  So Peter is more evil.  He has the
touches of Voldemort's, like Voldemort has of Harry's.  Oh this is a
nice little trio of people we have here.  Seems Harry turned out to be
the only one not contaminated.

Wait - did Wormtail wipe off the knife after he used it to cut his arm
off?  Ewwww.

Ok that may not truly matter, but this "priori incantatem" of bodies
could be a fascinating revelation.  Especially through the eyes of MD,
because Dumbledore knows how each part of this works for his plan.
Since he engineered the whole potion, it seems he knew what he was
doing to cause Harry's blood to affect Voldemort, and Peter's life
dept to affect Voldemort, but did Dumbledore expect Voldemort to have
a twinge of mercy on Peter and give him that silvery stuff hand?  That
might be a jump for Dumbledore to assume he would, but then again,
Dishwasher!Dumbledore does try to read Voldie's mind.

So *if* Dishwasher!Dumbledore did secretly desire Voldemort to be kind
to his rather faithful servant, then we have a Dumbledore that has and
knows all the cards.  He knows how the magic applies.  I wonder how he
would use such knowledge.  Is he to try to woo Peter back to the good
side so he can unite him and Harry against Voldemort now?

Granted by Elkins' views on that silvery stuff, Peter is now more evil
and thus is really as bad as Voldemort.  He has a good, hard dose just
introduced into his blood stream, so it seems Peter is not going
anywhere.  In fact, he might be vying for his evil crown.

Hmph - little pathetic Peter being a competitive evil overlord?

But if Dishwasher!Dumbledore, did *not* engineer or plan for Voldemort
to have that moment of kindness, then this theory could prove
problematic for him.  I guess it depends on his plans for Peter,
though Dumbledore does know Peter has the silvery hand.  So, even if
he did not expect Peter to get such a gift, he can now make his plans
based on that knowledge.  Though, if SuperEvil!Peter is equal to
Voldemort, it seems then Dumbledore has a battle with two fronts that
cannot destroy each other.  That is not good.

I guess in the end, in terms of the dishwasher, it matters whether
Dumbledore wanted Voldemort to bestow a part of himself on Peter.  The
points of MD, do not say specifically say that it is his wish, but it
could have been.  Either way, it does not look to good for Voldemort
if Eric Oppen's and Elkins' theories are true.  He has sacrificed
quite a bit to become human again.

Why do I have a sudden urge to filk "Human Again" from Beauty and the
Beast?  ::shrugs::


Melody





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