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[Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 50658

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
<catlady at w...>" <catlady at w...> wrote:

> 
> Ebony wrote:
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> <<Rather, I've always seen the Ministry as a "hidden" branch of the 
> UK's Muggle government that has an unusual degree of autonomy, >>
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> CATLADY:
> No, no, no! There is no canon to disprove that theory, ...
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bboy_mn:
There is canon that indicates (PoA) that the Wizarding and the highest
levels of Muggle government are aware of and in contact with each
other. Fudge informed the Prime Minister (muggle) that Sirius Black
had escaped. That would imply that at the highest levels, the wizard
and muggle world have always known about each other. 

Side note: I wonder if the Royal Family knows? 

That has to be a nasty shock. The newly elected Prime Minister is
taken into a room by the Secret Service (or whatever they call them)
and they say, "Welcome to office, ... oh, and by the way, there are
wizards, witches, and hidden magical cities in the UK, but you can't
tell anyone. Oh... and dragons too. Ah... and hippogriffs. Would you
like a cup of tea? ...biscuit? ...No? They really do fly on brooms you
know. Any questions then?"

Just a thought.

- bboy_mn -end this part-


> 
> Annemehr wrote:
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> << So, to conclude, I think the Malfoys for the most part probably
> do live in that manor in the country. >>
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> CATALADY:
> ...edited... 
> 
> With Apparation for adults and Floo for everyone, wizarding folk 
> don't need a house in town. They can Apparate or Floo to Diagon 
> Alley, Hogsmeade, ...
> ...edited...
> For that reason, I see no  reason why the wizarding folk would need 
> a Magic District in each  Muggle city ... one for England and Wales,
> maybe another for Scotland and another for Ireland, should be in 
> Floo and Apparation range of everyone.
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bboy_mn:

There is a definite limit to apparation. In PS/SS, when Dumbledore
went to London, it appears as though, or was implied that he flew, and
one presumes he flew a broom.

As a side note: this brings up something I am dying to know. What are
the limitations on Floo, Portkey and Apparation? 

Ron implied, and later Arthur actually did it, that (assumed)
Burrow/Devon to London/Surrey and back was within range. That's
216km/135mi. London to Hogwarts [area (2)if you've seen my maps] is
697km/436mi. (for reference: London->Paris =341km/213mi, &
London->Edinburgh =534km/335mi).

To my knowledge, we have never heard of anyone apparating from London
to Hogwarts, not even a vague implication. So, I have arbitrarily
assume 500km/300mi; just short of London to Edinburgh. Of course, you
can make greater distance by apparating in two or three hops. 

Having said that, I don't think being within apparating distance is
the deciding factor as to whether a town/city has a magic city hidden
within. That's like saying that all town need only be one tank of
petrol appart. I think there are social and aesthetic reasons why
wizards may want to live somewhere. Torquay, Bristol, and Cardiff have
the ocean and beaches. Devon has clotted cream, strawberry jam, and a
quiet rural life. The lake country in the north of England might
appeal so some, and the a peaceful city life might bring them to
Birmingham. The point is, I don't think wizards setup magic cities
based on apparating distance, any more that cities are setup on
driving distance. It's based on how desireable a location is and the
amount of wizarding history that is based in that area. 

I will amend that by saying that I doubt that every major city has a
hidden magic neighborhood, but I suspect (obviously, no proof) that
the biggest cities, most desireable cities, and some cities with
substantial wizarding history do. In reality, that's only a few more
cities than your guess. 

Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn