A theory regarding the "innocence" of Sirius Black an...

[Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 50935

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat2001 <Zarleycat at a...>"
<Zarleycat at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "anakinbester 
> <anakinbester at h...>" <anakinbester at h...> wrote:
> > But, What if Sirius was, if not working for Voldemort, involved in 
> > Dark Magic? We know from Snape that Black did try to kill him. 
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> Marianne replied:
>
> I can't let this pass.  We know that's what Snape *thinks.*  
> We still > do not know that that was Sirius' intent.  ...edited...
> -end this part-


> anakinbester orignially said:
> 
> > Honestly I don't know what the whole situation was, but that's not 
> > normally what you do to someone even if you hate them, and Sirius 
> > showed no remorse about it even later.  ...edited...
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> To which Marianne replied:
>
> Ah, see? You fell right into JKR's trap! ;-).
>  
> Marianne

bboy_mn:

We know what we know, but what we don't know, we don't know.

When this has come up before, I speculated that this is how the
conversation might have gone.

Scene:
Black catches Snape seeking around and spying on them (the Maurader's)
again, sick and fed up with Snape contant annoyance, and constant
efforts to get them into trouble or expelled, Black reaches his limit
and confronts Snape.

Black:
Snape, how many times have I told you to leave us alone. Keep you big
nose out of our business.

Snape:
I won't rest until I've found out what you are up to; certainly no
good, and once I find out you and your high and mighty little friends
will be out of here. Once I find out what your doing not even the
headmaster will be able to save you this time. 

I saw Lupin enter the tunnel under the Whomping Willow. You might as
well tell me, because I won't rest until I find out.

Black:
All right. ALL RIGHT! You want to know, well I'll tell you. I'll tell
you because I'm going to enjoy watching you die, and die you will if
you don't stay out of this.

You want to see where Lupin goes? Well, prode the knot on the Whomping
 Willow and it will freeze, then you can go meet your doom. 

You listen to me very closely, Snape. You go into that tunnel and it
will be the last thing you ever do. When you come out, they will be
carrying what is left of you in shoe box.

So if you are dying of curiousity, then go ahead and die. ...and my
God have mercy on your rotten soul.


(OK, he probably wouldn't have said 'rotten soul' but I was running
out of dialog.)

True, there is an element of reverse psychology here, but Black did
give Snape fair and clear warning.

This could very easily be preceived by Snape as Black's idea of a
joke. Black, in a moment of anger and frustration, told Snape what he
wanted to hear and bluntly warned him, although, he probably suspected
Snape would go anyway. 

Why no remorse from Black? Because, in his mind, he told Snape crystal
clear that if he went into that tunnel, he would be dead. He feels no
guilt in Snape not heeding that warning.

Althouh, I think there is a part of him that subconciously knows he
screwed up big time, and eventually that will come out.

Just one perspective.

bboy_mn