Harry Will Be Accused and Locked up in Azkaban/ His Escape

gkjpo <kristen@sanderson-web.com> kristen at sanderson-web.com
Wed Jan 29 13:12:00 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 50976

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "happybean98 <kathleen at h...>" 
<kathleen at h...> wrote:
<snip>
> Dumbledore, Sirius AND Lupin would have to be completely discredited
> and/or dead for this theory to even be plausible."
> 
> Jim:
> One of Harry's defenders you name is under a worse than death 
sentence
> and another one is of a despised and distrusted group, werewolves. 
> They have negative credibility in the eyes of the wizard world. 
> Dumbledore remains a strong defender, but he now has the enmity of 
the
> Minster of Magic. How independent is the wizard judiciary? We might
> find out.
> 
> Kathleen: 
> I agree with Jim 100% about Sirius and Lupin.  As for Dumbledore, I 
> am certain he will be removed somehow the moment Cornelius Fudge 
> finds out from Rita Skeeter that he is harboring  Sirius Black.. 
Any 
> defense Dumbledore could give would be weakened if not annihilated 
by 
> this turn of events. 
> 
Kristen again:
I think you are underestimating the good side (I thought we weren't 
supposed to underestimate the dark side! :).  I know very well that 
Lupin and Sirius are fully discredited.  However, they are still 
extremely powerful wizards and neither would allow Harry to come to 
harm.  Sirius has the advantage that no one knows where he is.  At 
the end of Gof, Dumbledore sends Bill on a mission to Arthur Weasley 
to round up everyone who is on his side.  We are led to believe that 
this will be either a considerable number, or a small number of very 
smart and talented wizards.  So, actually, I add to my above 
statement that Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin and the Weasley family would 
all have to be dead (I leave out the disredited because his crew 
obviously cares more about what is ultimately right than what will 
make them look good), to allow Harry to go to Azkaban.


> Kathleen:
> Again, I don't think Dumbledore's help will be enough.  I am sure 
> Dumbledore would try to help out in the trial...but will that be 
> enough?  Couldn't the MoM point out  that Dumbledore once gave 
> witness that Sirius Black was the Potter's secret keeper, and now 
> Dumbledore is harboring him?  That Dumbledore claims to be 
protecting 
> Harry from Black, yet he brings Sirius Black into the same room as 
> Harry?.  I think Dumbledore will be the one sent to St. Mungo's.  
His 
> actions appear so contradictory.  Fudge implied at the end of GoF 
> that Dumbledore was crazy for believing Harry so easily.  

Kristen again:
However, Fudge still lets Lupin off the hook based soley on 
Dumbledore's word.  This makes Fudge culpable in any trial for 
Dumbledore.  Even for Evil!Fudge to do this doesn't seem to be useful 
to me - this smacks more of Moron!Fudge (I love that one, Scott).  
Remember too that the entire wizard world believes Harry to be the 
boy who saved them from Voldemort in the first place.  Trying to turn 
that tide would take a major PR campaign and Rita - an illegal 
animagi and Lucius - a rich man probably hated by many of the lower 
class and who was also fired as a school govenor would have a tough 
time to prove this.  If Evil!Fudge were to help, he would have to 
make a really good case to support this without looking evil and I 
personally think he's too much of a moron to pull this off.

> Kathleen:
> However, at the end of GoF 
> we see that a shift is taking place regarding how Harry is seen by 
> the WW.  Fudge, Diggory, and of course Lucius Malfoy have held 
> suspicions against him. It sounds to me as though Fudge is getting 
> tired of babysitting Harry and would be grateful to be rid of him.  
> Fudge is only worried about how he is percieved by the WW, and 
> especially the MoM. His actions will flow from his desire to do 
what 
> the MoM wants him to do.  If that means protecting Harry one day 
and 
> locking him up the next day....so be it.

Kristen again:
I don't see how Fudge, Diggory and Malfoy represent the majority of 
the WW.  Diggory is known to be hotheaded and he would be countered 
by Arthur Weasly at the MoM who knows pretty much everyone.  Malfoy 
as I said cannot possibly be a hero to the wizarding community.  He 
may have a lot of influence in higher circles, but to do anything to 
Harry would take a lot.  

Now, if you want to say that Dumbledore would be put on trial (is 
this what Tom suggested?  I snipped his words too soon).  That I 
might believe.  He would probably allow himself to go through the 
trial and possibly even Azkaban (since he could probably still wield 
influence from there).  

Also, interestingly, since Fawkes strikes fear in the evil and weak 
of heart, could he show up at Azkaban and take care of the 
Dementors?  As I have stated before, I wonder if Harry could do some 
major magic with Fawkes' whole self instead of the one feather he 
uses in his wand.  We know that a phoenix is the theme of this book, 
so I wonder if we'll find out.

Kristen
I'll admit that I don't want to see a courtroom drama book.  There 
are other books/authors I would read if I wanted to read that.





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