OOP: what we forget with Sirus and James and Harry

[Koticzka]

No: HPFGUIDX 67011

<princessmelabela at y...> wrote:
>> They never experienced what it was like to be an outsider when they were
young (certainly Sirius has now, but I maintain that Sirius is not the jerky
kid he once was) many children who are like this have this tendency to be
cruel people.  It's true and I know that almost all of those people grow up
to regret it.  <<

Marina rusalka at ix.netcom.com answered:
>>Well, maybe James hasn't experienced it, but Sirius, at the very least,
knew what it was like to be an outsider within his own family.  At the time
of the flashback, he was only a few months away from running away from home
and getting his name blasted from the family tree.  (...snip....)Also, I
have to ask: if *all* we had ever seen of Snape was a single incident of him
at 15, as remembered by someone who hates him, would he have come across as
a nice person?  (Not that he comes across as a nice person now, but I trust
people know what I mean.)<<

***Koticzka's comment:
Running away from a family toward a friend's home where willing parental
figures are waiting to welcome you, and being rejected or abandoned (as
Snape seems to be) are two totally different things. Sirius made his choice.
Snape was not given one. Not that we know the story very well, but Sirius's
grandfather cares what happened to his grandson.  Remember, a portrait is
presumed to possess the person's
personality, is it not?  Sirius's uncle helps him. Snape seems to be
pretty neglected, not even taught how to take care of himself (due to
lacking a mother? I wonder). Sirius is definitely NOT an outsider... Is
Severus?  Well...

We were shown a single incident, apparently one of the worst of Snape's
memories, indeed, which was both preceded and followed by taunts, trials to
humiliate the opponent, attempts to hurt, etc. It is not a single incident
which has created the man's personality. The point of view - as has already
been discussed on the forum - would not change the facts. Additionally, the
depth of Snape's wounds would not really depend on the sort of incident, but
rather more on the situation and age of the person in question.

Then again, there is a slight difference between seeing a person as a nice
person and as a person who is justified in his actions. When one is hurt and
humiliated very, very deeply, do not expect that person to be kind and
noble, especially in everyday living, or you risk being called NAIVE.

No, neither age nor sex matters, Marina. Sorry to say that, I wish the
world was different myself.

Well, perhaps sex does matter a little, since it is connected with
psychology and sociology (roles in the society, predispositions, the
chemistry of the body, etc).  Sorry, guys, but men are different and act
different than women.)

Koticzka, who would rather stay naive if she was able to and who regrets not
acting once, many years ago.
How can you hurt a man who has nothing?
Give him something broken.




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